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		<title>By: I Get Mail, Child Exploitation Defender Edition : Jenn Q. Public</title>
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		<dc:creator>I Get Mail, Child Exploitation Defender Edition : Jenn Q. Public</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 05:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] moral responsibility to protect children from pedophiles.Â  The piece was originally published at Red Alerts, and recently appeared on Afrocity&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] moral responsibility to protect children from pedophiles.Â  The piece was originally published at Red Alerts, and recently appeared on Afrocity&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jenn Q. Public</title>
		<link>http://www.red-alerts.com/blacklist/librarians-still-enabling-pedophiles/comment-page-1/#comment-57797</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenn Q. Public</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 21:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Dan, for the compliment and the link.  

I have not suffered any repercussions for publishing this because I used a pseudonym and obscured identifying details of the incident.  I felt that getting my story out was, at this point, more useful to everyone than demonizing a particular institution.  If I had physical evidence of the cover up, it would have been a different story, but since all I have is my word, I wanted to get the story out and hopefully encourage other library employees to do the right thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Dan, for the compliment and the link.  </p>
<p>I have not suffered any repercussions for publishing this because I used a pseudonym and obscured identifying details of the incident.  I felt that getting my story out was, at this point, more useful to everyone than demonizing a particular institution.  If I had physical evidence of the cover up, it would have been a different story, but since all I have is my word, I wanted to get the story out and hopefully encourage other library employees to do the right thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Kleinman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Kleinman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 05:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have blogged on this unique post here: &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://safelibraries.blogspot.com/2009/05/libraries-aid-and-abet-pedophiles.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Libraries Aid and Abet Pedophiles, Destroy Evidence, Retaliate Against Whistle Blowers, Claim Dubious Privacy and Free Speech Rights; ALA At Fault&lt;/a&gt;.&quot;

Jenn Q. Public, you have written an outstanding post.  What, if any, repercussions were there from your publishing of this post?

Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have blogged on this unique post here: &#8220;<a href="http://safelibraries.blogspot.com/2009/05/libraries-aid-and-abet-pedophiles.html" rel="nofollow">Libraries Aid and Abet Pedophiles, Destroy Evidence, Retaliate Against Whistle Blowers, Claim Dubious Privacy and Free Speech Rights; ALA At Fault</a>.&#8221;</p>
<p>Jenn Q. Public, you have written an outstanding post.  What, if any, repercussions were there from your publishing of this post?</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenn Q. Public</title>
		<link>http://www.red-alerts.com/blacklist/librarians-still-enabling-pedophiles/comment-page-1/#comment-57758</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenn Q. Public</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 02:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chimp, I&#039;ve already written this elsewhere, but I&#039;ll duplicate it for others who come across your comment: this article was first published more than a year ago.  Why are you suddenly showing up to copy and paste your comment on all the versions of this article that appear around the web?

Regarding the mental status of the accused, articles originally indicated that he was deaf and mute.  Later accounts mentioned that he might be schizophrenic or mentally challenged, but not that he is &quot;profoundly retarded.&quot;  However, none of those disabilities have any bearing on whether he should be permitted to contribute to the violent abuse of children. 

Every consumer of child pornography is complicit in child exploitation.  If someone is observed while engaging in this criminal activity, it needs to be reported, period, just like any other serious crime.  Evidence needs to be collected and preserved so it can be used to save the lives of children who might still be alive and in the hands of vile degenerates.

This is a moral issue, and the suggestion that we limit ourselves to what the law obligates us to do is precisely what I was criticizing.  In fact, your comment underscores my point and is an excellent illustration of the type of moral deficiency encouraged by the American Library Association.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chimp, I&#8217;ve already written this elsewhere, but I&#8217;ll duplicate it for others who come across your comment: this article was first published more than a year ago.  Why are you suddenly showing up to copy and paste your comment on all the versions of this article that appear around the web?</p>
<p>Regarding the mental status of the accused, articles originally indicated that he was deaf and mute.  Later accounts mentioned that he might be schizophrenic or mentally challenged, but not that he is &#8220;profoundly retarded.&#8221;  However, none of those disabilities have any bearing on whether he should be permitted to contribute to the violent abuse of children. </p>
<p>Every consumer of child pornography is complicit in child exploitation.  If someone is observed while engaging in this criminal activity, it needs to be reported, period, just like any other serious crime.  Evidence needs to be collected and preserved so it can be used to save the lives of children who might still be alive and in the hands of vile degenerates.</p>
<p>This is a moral issue, and the suggestion that we limit ourselves to what the law obligates us to do is precisely what I was criticizing.  In fact, your comment underscores my point and is an excellent illustration of the type of moral deficiency encouraged by the American Library Association.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.red-alerts.com/blacklist/librarians-still-enabling-pedophiles/comment-page-1/#comment-57749</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 23:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if I see you being mugged on the street I have no obligation to call the cops eh? What you&#039;re saying is that because you don&#039;t have a legal obligation to report people viewing the evidence of a rape on tax payer funded computers in public they should pretend it is not immoral to do so. 

Child pornography is the visual record of a rape of an innocent victim. Two pedophiles that made the very same argument you made were later found to be producing movies of them raping an infant. The scenes in many of these cases depict bondage, anal and oral rape, drugged or screaming/crying children being molested and sadistic abuse like choking children, beating them or sodomizing them with objects. 

But your claim is that when a decent person sees that they should just shrug it off. Who raised you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if I see you being mugged on the street I have no obligation to call the cops eh? What you&#8217;re saying is that because you don&#8217;t have a legal obligation to report people viewing the evidence of a rape on tax payer funded computers in public they should pretend it is not immoral to do so. </p>
<p>Child pornography is the visual record of a rape of an innocent victim. Two pedophiles that made the very same argument you made were later found to be producing movies of them raping an infant. The scenes in many of these cases depict bondage, anal and oral rape, drugged or screaming/crying children being molested and sadistic abuse like choking children, beating them or sodomizing them with objects. </p>
<p>But your claim is that when a decent person sees that they should just shrug it off. Who raised you?</p>
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		<title>By: Chimp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chimp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 22:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone who reads this should know, as was left out in the post, that the library patron was profoundly retarded.

And it is not just a First Amendment issue, it is a 5th amendment one too. 

If law enforcement wants evidence, let them seek it out using legal investigatory techniques.

Librarians (and the rest of us for that matter) are not obligated to report suspected crimes, as we (and they) are not officers of the court or in any way related to law enforcement.

If Jen Q. Public wants to be in law enforcement, than that career is available to her.

If the State wants to license librarians and subject them to some version of mandated reporting in their professional capacity, they are capable of legislating that.

That neither of the previous cases has come to pass (or applies in this case) shows it is not the librarian&#039;s business to intervene.

If any potential or actual librarians left the field because they could not internalize the reasoning of their ethical code, well, then they made the right choice and sayonara to them I say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone who reads this should know, as was left out in the post, that the library patron was profoundly retarded.</p>
<p>And it is not just a First Amendment issue, it is a 5th amendment one too. </p>
<p>If law enforcement wants evidence, let them seek it out using legal investigatory techniques.</p>
<p>Librarians (and the rest of us for that matter) are not obligated to report suspected crimes, as we (and they) are not officers of the court or in any way related to law enforcement.</p>
<p>If Jen Q. Public wants to be in law enforcement, than that career is available to her.</p>
<p>If the State wants to license librarians and subject them to some version of mandated reporting in their professional capacity, they are capable of legislating that.</p>
<p>That neither of the previous cases has come to pass (or applies in this case) shows it is not the librarian&#8217;s business to intervene.</p>
<p>If any potential or actual librarians left the field because they could not internalize the reasoning of their ethical code, well, then they made the right choice and sayonara to them I say.</p>
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		<title>By: SMP</title>
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		<dc:creator>SMP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 05:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is appalling!  Thank you so very much for posting this.  Should I or anyone I know see something like this taking place in a library, I know it would be best to simply call the police from the start.  Thank you again! And very well written.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is appalling!  Thank you so very much for posting this.  Should I or anyone I know see something like this taking place in a library, I know it would be best to simply call the police from the start.  Thank you again! And very well written.</p>
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		<title>By: DS</title>
		<link>http://www.red-alerts.com/blacklist/librarians-still-enabling-pedophiles/comment-page-1/#comment-12876</link>
		<dc:creator>DS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As more of these incidents come to light, perhaps we can get more &#039;reformed&#039; librarians who will come forward and report these creeps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As more of these incidents come to light, perhaps we can get more &#8216;reformed&#8217; librarians who will come forward and report these creeps.</p>
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