Do you really believe that messages posted on the Internet cannot be re-posted … on the Internet? Again, are you retarded?

Why do I give a crap about your religious history? And hwy do you think Catholic priests molesting boys de-legitimizes the over 200 denominations of Christianity? Retarded and bigoted.

I was a Wiccan for more years than you’ve been pretending to be Harry Potter. Sorry douche, I know what I’m talking about. Being friends with several Wiccans that you think are good people doesn’t mitigate the actual happenings of this case.

Also since you think calling the cops on child molesters is “going to far” I find your judgment suspect.

I’m not a Liberal but this issue isn’t political.

You don’t know what constructive criticism means obviously, but more to the point you’re some sort of fascist with no understanding of defamation laws. Read a book moron. You can’t sue people for writing something you don’t like. You can’t sue people for publishing something they sent to you, because once it is sent it belongs to you. You can’t sue someone for re-printing something you post on a public forum.

Since you’re so sue happy here’s something for you to get upset over. I think you’re a pervert who lusts after children. You were wired that way because your mother was a whore and your father took it in the ass in prison, then did the same to you. Now find a lawyer who will sue me,.

Second, you attack the Wiccan religion like everyone in it is all one and the same. Nothing but a butch of perverts. You say it’s a dying religion and that it’s going no where. Maybe Pagan Space is killing out the religion, but honestly, how much research have you done on the whole thing. You say Wicca is dying out, yet you only point to one website.

Third, you’ve made another mistake by posting that conversation on the internet for the public to view when you had no right to. If the said person ever found out about it, he could counter sue you and probably win. That is an invasion of privacy, at which the general public has no right. The proper thing to have done would have been to contact the proper administration to let them do what they need to do. That’s as far as anyone in the public needs to go.

Fourth, from what I get out of the whole thing, is that you were bad mouthing just as much as the said people were. So, if it were to go to court, and they had kept your conversations, it wouldn’t hold up.

Fifth, I used to be Christian, a Jesus believer. But, I’ve sense turned away from that because of all of the baloney and BS in the religion. Nothing but a bunch of crap. You bad mouth Wiccan like there is nothing to it, yet claim to have been one yourself. I can think of many things that’s just as bad about Christian based religions, like priest molesting little boys and so forth. Teaching people that they don’t have to take responsibility for their sins because Jesus will do it for them and so forth.

Sixth, this article to me looks like it’s coming from a one sided liberal perspective. Almost as thought your using one side of that brain you have. Those men who are seeking young girls on the internet, aren’t really Wiccan witches. I’ve met Wiccans, and I’m friends with several of them, and the ones I’ve met all seem to be down to earth people, and actually care about children. It looks to me as though you are saying one thing in the article and trying to please the commenter down below with something entirely different.

Lastly, let me just say that I’m not trying to get on your bad side good sir. I’m not trying to make enemies with anyone. I’m merely trying to offer constructive criticism from my point of view. No, I don’t think everyone will agree with me, and everything I have to say. It’s ok to disagree. Personally, if you asked me, I’d say I think every Wiccan community on the internet should get together to sue you for this one sided article lumping them all into one. Next time, be more open minded and choose your words carefully.

Blessings.

You’re worried about me hurting people’s feeling when right now some 13-year-old has a load in her mouth that she was told by a 50+ pedophile was a sacrament. Sorry, kid our priorities are different.

Oh and hey, thanks for the advice on how to be a doormat but like I said, I’m done with the neo-Pagan “community” and could give a shit how many child molesters you pal around with. With Pagans Against Child Abuse several child molesters were exposed and guess what? No one in your precious community cared. NO ONE.

Wicca is over, it’s done. It’s always going to be a pedophile dating club and will never be relevant again. I wash my hands of it and you should too. Why?

Read these pieces and get back to me:

http://www.red-alerts.com/eat-it-hippy/pagans-shocked-to-discover-wicca-a-manson-esque-hippy-sex-cult/

http://www.red-alerts.com/un-american-activities/never-again-the-burning-times-the-rank-hypocrisy-of-starhawk-and-the-neo-pagan-community/

http://www.red-alerts.com/resurgent-communism/did-you-know-all-nazis-are-christians-and-all-pagans-are-good-people-why-wiccans-hates-you/

And look. I don’t blog religion or politics anymore so find someone else to play with. Get yourself a copy of Paul Huson’s Mastering Witchcraft and drop the Silver Ravenwolfery and then we’ll talk. From now on Witches are allowed, but all Wiccans will be banned.

“Oh and hey, go fuck yourself. Or that 60 year old you let touch you because someone on PaganSpace told you it was cool.”

Won’t make people talk you seriously.

*on the other hand*

I gotta say a lot of stuff you said was pretty concrete, and so was some of the stuff people commented about, how people are using our faith as a lure to kidnap minors.

I’m half and half with this post, maybe you could’ve worded it different so as not say that Wicca is a pedophile haven (in so many words) but, hell, its your opinion.

A) Please see out new comment policy. But in short form it says I could give a shit what you think so get lost.

B) No one was upset by “conversations” but by adult men hooking up with children online to “teach” them this or that. Wicca is a religion that is fairly easy to abuse since it involves a good deal of sex (when done right!) so grow up and stop pretending that skeevy baby boomers who still make up stupid names for themselves (Ironrod HeartSprite Drconis for example) are anything but creepy perverts looking for teens who cut themselves while watching Twilight to orally and analy rape.

Oh and hey, go fuck yourself. Or that 60 year old you let touch you because someone on PaganSpace told you it was cool.

“zOMG older then 18 is talking to someone younger then 18!! ZOMG 3H WURLLD IZ GUNNA ENDZes!!!!!!!!!”

First of all Wiccans tend to act the same as Christians as far as their ridiculous prejudices about how one dresses, how magick works, how you are “abnormal” if you actually love somebody or don’t work 9 – 5, etc., etc. Most Wiccans are so incredibly “normalized” that any attempt to discuss any non-”fluffy” magickal topic, or any non-sheep other topic, will result in thinly veiled insults and stupid notes of “I hope you learn how to be exactly like everyone else soon” (similar to the derogatory Christian “I’ll pray for you, I’ll pray that you conform, Jesus loves you anyway, accepting other human beings is not allowed”, etc).

I did unfortunately get far enough into your article where you say you don’t like Wiccans (of that type), and yet from the ignorant, unjustified, bigoted rant in your commentary you would think that Wiccan (of that type) is exactly what you are! (That was the reason for my above paragraph… )

Calling people rapists merely because THEY HAD A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEONE YOUNGER THEN THEM, which oh by the way millions of people do every day, IT ISN’T ILLEGAL OR MORALLY WRONG IN ANY WAY, is just the type of thing a Wiccan would do…

The above should not be construed to say there is no such thing as a normal, moral, decent, accepting Wiccan. Although MOST of the ones I’ve met in THAT category do so mainly because they don’t know of the differences between Wicca and Paganism other then the Rede… and typically don’t abide by said Rede except when other decent human beings would do so.

“You are brave for telling other people that you are Pagan.” Wow. Definitely pedophilic-rapist material.

This crock of shit (article) is more difficult to comphrend that anyone could possibly believe then Holy Bible is.

But I do recognize the difference between the “Inner Court” and the Wicca sub-culture I’m criticism and in fact knew several 3rd degree initiates in the more reputable covens but I’m sure you’d agree with my contention that Wicca today has been hijacked by people more interested in style than substance.

I would very much like to see a public discussion about the dangers of this pop-culture Wicca that didn’t frame the issue as we advocating for safety of children being “Christians” who hate paganism.

I consider it to be most admirable that you and your organisation are working to keep children safe over the internet and while I have no idea about the kind of people on Pagan Space (as I don’t use it), if what is being said is true then it certainly warrants attention so that both the authorities and owners can address the situation and put a stop to it.

Though I feel I must correct a few of your misconceptions about Wicca. The Wicca is a priesthood that practice a Mystery religion and real, traditional Wicca does not initiate anyone under the age of 18. In fact, quite a lot of coven even raise this age-restriction.
This age-restriction serves several purposes: firstly it serves to protect Wiccans themselves from being the targets of allegations such as those levied here. Secondly it is designed to protect young people, so that if they find their way to a coven, group or person that is willing to initiate minors, then they will hopefully be able to realise that it is not a Wiccan coven. The third reason is that the Wicca wish to know that their initiates are sufficiently mature enough (mentally) to practice the religion and have had enough life-experience to know that Wicca is what they really want.

This is the theory. However in practice I personally have never known a Wiccan who was initiated younger than their late twenties and the vast majority of Wiccans I know (and that is a lot) are no younger than their mid-thirties. In fact, they tend to range in age right up to their eighties.

However, I can see the problem that is commonly encountered when discussing Wicca.
The priesthood of the Wicca are alive and well, with many thousands of initiates worldwide. The real problem is that the word “wicca” has been generally misappropriate by the mainstream media and used to apply a whole heap of things – much of which is watered down and bares little resemblance to actual Wicca.
Granted there are a small number of books written by Wiccan authors, but even these only deal with “Outer Court” materials of the religion. In other words, being as Wicca is a Mystery religion, the information in books makes up only about 10% of what Wicca actually is.

The problem goes further in that the watered down “wicca” that fills the book-shelves and much of the internet, tends to dwarf the information that is put out there by the real members of the priesthood. As such, genuine seekers often get lost in the rubbish and think that is what Wicca actually is.
All of this home-built, feel good, fluffy “wicca” just makes it easier for predators to pretend that they’re “the grand high poomba of Wiccan tradition X” and these young kids may well believe them and in so doing not only have the real religion spoiled for them, but also risk putting themselves in real danger.

Meanwhile, the Wicca priesthood can do very little against the onslaught of Llewelyn books, sparkly websites and money-hungry hacks. So instead they more often seek to make themselves available through respected organisation like the Pagan Federation. Though, of course, it must be remembered that the Wicca do not actively seek converts or proselytize, so progress is slow going some times. But that in itself is something that separates real Wicca from faux wicca: Wiccans never offer initiation, it is always the responsibility of the seeker to ask for it.

I hope this has helped a little.