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		<title>By: Rob Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2011 18:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn&#039;t evidence - it&#039;s an anonymous person&#039;s conspiracy theory. I say in the article that this is an off-shoot not affiliated with the Grail Movement - however your anti-Semitic conspiracy mongering (why would &quot;Zionist&quot; care about the Grail Movement? That&#039;s just asinine) makes me think I should look into what other things the Grail Movement is up to. 

There is more evidence, researching this phrasing, that you&#039;ve been cutting and pasting this false information into various publicly accessible sites to bolster a lie you&#039;re making up. Provide one reference, internet or not, that makes this claim. Show me one website where you couldn&#039;t have posted this information that makes these claims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t evidence &#8211; it&#8217;s an anonymous person&#8217;s conspiracy theory. I say in the article that this is an off-shoot not affiliated with the Grail Movement &#8211; however your anti-Semitic conspiracy mongering (why would &#8220;Zionist&#8221; care about the Grail Movement? That&#8217;s just asinine) makes me think I should look into what other things the Grail Movement is up to. </p>
<p>There is more evidence, researching this phrasing, that you&#8217;ve been cutting and pasting this false information into various publicly accessible sites to bolster a lie you&#8217;re making up. Provide one reference, internet or not, that makes this claim. Show me one website where you couldn&#8217;t have posted this information that makes these claims.</p>
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		<title>By: Shemp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shemp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2011 06:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Falsified allegations involving a Czech child abuse case - Press article attempting to involve the Grail Movement

In May 2007 the case of an abused 7 year old, Ondrej, was discovered in the small town of Kurim near Brno, Czech Republic. Two weeks later, on 19 May, a sensationalist article appeared in the Czech newspaper Mlada Fronta DNES stating that a bizarre cult might be involved, most probably the so-called Grail Movement.[2] The newspaper article was subsequently quoted by many others all over the world.[3]

The Czech Supreme Court however, on the 27th October 2010, upheld an earlier court verdict that the allegations and inferences regarding the Grail Movement in this and subsequent articles were without substance and falsified, and ordered the Czech newspaper involved to print a public apology.[4]

Further details:

The Grail Movement responded vigorously to the falsified Czech newspaper article, at press conferences and in articles, stating that the people involved had previously been a part of it, but the Movement broke with them 11 years previously in 1996, due to their behavior being quite opposite to the Grail Movementâ€™s principles. They may have established their own bizarre cult, having nothing to do with the Grail Movement. This statement was supported by the opinions and research of all Czech religion &amp; religious entity researchers / observers interviewed.(,[5][6][7] in Czech)

In 2008 the abuse case was tried, some more details disclosed and the people involved were sentenced to 5â€“11 years imprisonment. At that time, the cult was called the &quot;Nameless sect of Mr. Skrla&quot; in Czech media,([8] in Czech) however the falsified article insinuating that the Grail Movement was connected to the case has already been quoted in foreign papers.

In October 2009 a lawsuit took place in Prague between MAFRA, the publisher of Mlada Fronta DNES, and the Grail Movement Foundation in the Czech Republic, who demanded a public retraction of the false allegations and a published apology. The Foundation won the lawsuit.[9] The publisher had subsequently appealed the court findings, however the Czech Supreme Court confirmed the verdict one year later, on 27. 10. 2010. The paper has since printed the apology on 21. 12. 2010.[10]

A consequence of the falsified article is the reprinting and quoting of the original article in foreign newspappers, which can still be found and are not subject to the Czech Supreme Court order.
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I think It was a Zionist plot to discredit the Grail message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Falsified allegations involving a Czech child abuse case &#8211; Press article attempting to involve the Grail Movement</p>
<p>In May 2007 the case of an abused 7 year old, Ondrej, was discovered in the small town of Kurim near Brno, Czech Republic. Two weeks later, on 19 May, a sensationalist article appeared in the Czech newspaper Mlada Fronta DNES stating that a bizarre cult might be involved, most probably the so-called Grail Movement.[2] The newspaper article was subsequently quoted by many others all over the world.[3]</p>
<p>The Czech Supreme Court however, on the 27th October 2010, upheld an earlier court verdict that the allegations and inferences regarding the Grail Movement in this and subsequent articles were without substance and falsified, and ordered the Czech newspaper involved to print a public apology.[4]</p>
<p>Further details:</p>
<p>The Grail Movement responded vigorously to the falsified Czech newspaper article, at press conferences and in articles, stating that the people involved had previously been a part of it, but the Movement broke with them 11 years previously in 1996, due to their behavior being quite opposite to the Grail Movementâ€™s principles. They may have established their own bizarre cult, having nothing to do with the Grail Movement. This statement was supported by the opinions and research of all Czech religion &amp; religious entity researchers / observers interviewed.(,[5][6][7] in Czech)</p>
<p>In 2008 the abuse case was tried, some more details disclosed and the people involved were sentenced to 5â€“11 years imprisonment. At that time, the cult was called the &#8220;Nameless sect of Mr. Skrla&#8221; in Czech media,([8] in Czech) however the falsified article insinuating that the Grail Movement was connected to the case has already been quoted in foreign papers.</p>
<p>In October 2009 a lawsuit took place in Prague between MAFRA, the publisher of Mlada Fronta DNES, and the Grail Movement Foundation in the Czech Republic, who demanded a public retraction of the false allegations and a published apology. The Foundation won the lawsuit.[9] The publisher had subsequently appealed the court findings, however the Czech Supreme Court confirmed the verdict one year later, on 27. 10. 2010. The paper has since printed the apology on 21. 12. 2010.[10]</p>
<p>A consequence of the falsified article is the reprinting and quoting of the original article in foreign newspappers, which can still be found and are not subject to the Czech Supreme Court order.<br />
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<p>I think It was a Zionist plot to discredit the Grail message.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 13:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What?</description>
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		<title>By: Shemp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shemp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That whole criminal situation looks like a Zionist plot to discredit the Grail Message?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That whole criminal situation looks like a Zionist plot to discredit the Grail Message?</p>
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		<title>By: SELASSIE(Ghana)</title>
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		<dc:creator>SELASSIE(Ghana)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2011 21:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes,He who has ears,Let him hear.The Grail Message is a Book on the open market.Abd-ru-shin,the author,demands a careful examining and inflexible weighing of the message by all readers and listeners as opposed to the exercise of blind faith.
Rob Taylors criticisms are well grounded but mere familiarity cannot be compared to knowledge truly absorbed and experienced.
Any reader of the Grail Message knows the criticisms cannot stand the Truth revealed in the Message.
I was brought up a fully Bible believing Christian.My encounter with the Grail Message deepened my understanding of the Biblical truths and answered the unresolved questions that kept burning in me.It is an enlightenment Not a cult.
I hope Rob has accessed and assessed the ruling of the Czech Supreme Court and subsequent apology rendered to the Grail movement on the subject that prompted his article.
The Grail Message defends itself.Just read and examine it for yourself. You may need guidance just like a child in its first steps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes,He who has ears,Let him hear.The Grail Message is a Book on the open market.Abd-ru-shin,the author,demands a careful examining and inflexible weighing of the message by all readers and listeners as opposed to the exercise of blind faith.<br />
Rob Taylors criticisms are well grounded but mere familiarity cannot be compared to knowledge truly absorbed and experienced.<br />
Any reader of the Grail Message knows the criticisms cannot stand the Truth revealed in the Message.<br />
I was brought up a fully Bible believing Christian.My encounter with the Grail Message deepened my understanding of the Biblical truths and answered the unresolved questions that kept burning in me.It is an enlightenment Not a cult.<br />
I hope Rob has accessed and assessed the ruling of the Czech Supreme Court and subsequent apology rendered to the Grail movement on the subject that prompted his article.<br />
The Grail Message defends itself.Just read and examine it for yourself. You may need guidance just like a child in its first steps.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaye Onipinsaye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaye Onipinsaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2010 07:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Consider this sceanario; A wretched man dying of hunger under a lonely tree. He has no access to food because he has cut himself off from all supply of food.He has become acustom to eating sand and debris. Now the sand and debris has become POISON in his body. He needs HELP urgently else he dies and perish of disease and hunger.
A merciful KING in a distant land, out of Love, decides to send his servant to save this wrethed lost man. The servant came, sought him out in his loathsome corner, pulls him out of the mud and offers him the BREAD OF LIFE. But instead of him to gratefully accept this GRACE, he started cursing, criticising and acussing the king&#039;s servant for attempting to poison him with his Bread of Life.
MY SUBMISSION: Any human being on this earth today who can, without remorse, still speak ill of the GRAIL MESSAGE can be likened to the wretched man described above...HE WHO HAS EARS, LET HIM HEAR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Consider this sceanario; A wretched man dying of hunger under a lonely tree. He has no access to food because he has cut himself off from all supply of food.He has become acustom to eating sand and debris. Now the sand and debris has become POISON in his body. He needs HELP urgently else he dies and perish of disease and hunger.<br />
A merciful KING in a distant land, out of Love, decides to send his servant to save this wrethed lost man. The servant came, sought him out in his loathsome corner, pulls him out of the mud and offers him the BREAD OF LIFE. But instead of him to gratefully accept this GRACE, he started cursing, criticising and acussing the king&#8217;s servant for attempting to poison him with his Bread of Life.<br />
MY SUBMISSION: Any human being on this earth today who can, without remorse, still speak ill of the GRAIL MESSAGE can be likened to the wretched man described above&#8230;HE WHO HAS EARS, LET HIM HEAR.</p>
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		<title>By: tunde osun</title>
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		<dc:creator>tunde osun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2010 04:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grail movement isnt of God! i know because a very close relative delved into it for God knows what reason</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grail movement isnt of God! i know because a very close relative delved into it for God knows what reason</p>
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		<title>By: Ade Lawal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ade Lawal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 06:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Rob Taylor

I have read your article with great interest, and I would like to make one important point-The Grail Movement and the Grail Message are two seperate things. Mr Bernhardt never founded the Grail Movement, and went to great lengths espousing individual responsibility. From the very outset he demanded only earnest seekers of truth, and above all he rejected all religious fanatics, who in their blind faith, are not able to examine things objectively.  He says at the beginning of the grail message that is main aim is to fill the gaps in our spiritual unstanding.

I have the read the message. Does this fact alone makes me a good person? The obvious answer is No. I believe you have the right to critique the book or criticise the grail movement. Concerming the issue of the intellect it must be tempered with the voice of reason and intuition. The message says the over-cultivation of the intellect over thousands of years ultimately has led to advances in SCIENCE and TECHNOLOGY but at the very expense of our spiritual development,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Rob Taylor</p>
<p>I have read your article with great interest, and I would like to make one important point-The Grail Movement and the Grail Message are two seperate things. Mr Bernhardt never founded the Grail Movement, and went to great lengths espousing individual responsibility. From the very outset he demanded only earnest seekers of truth, and above all he rejected all religious fanatics, who in their blind faith, are not able to examine things objectively.  He says at the beginning of the grail message that is main aim is to fill the gaps in our spiritual unstanding.</p>
<p>I have the read the message. Does this fact alone makes me a good person? The obvious answer is No. I believe you have the right to critique the book or criticise the grail movement. Concerming the issue of the intellect it must be tempered with the voice of reason and intuition. The message says the over-cultivation of the intellect over thousands of years ultimately has led to advances in SCIENCE and TECHNOLOGY but at the very expense of our spiritual development,</p>
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		<title>By: Mercedes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mercedes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 17:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is this grail message thing all about anyway? Why all the secrecy about this group? If your message is true..... then PREACH IT! as God says. Get it out in the open! Go to every mountain and house-top and tell us what God said to you! Preach it; say it LOUD and make it CLEAR! 
Why do you subject your &quot;captives&quot; into reading 3 volumes of your message before they realise what they&#039;re doing, they&#039;re influenced. These are innocent minds seeking God whom you capture and give them &quot;stones&quot;.  Who told you Man is in-perfect? Havent you read in His Word that &quot;He hath made all things well&quot;?  

I know a lot of people in this group... All I have to say to you all is this: The Lord has placed before all man &#039;Life &amp; Death&#039; Choose Life that YOU MAY LIVE &amp; NOT DIE (i.e. Spiritually). The Grail Movement &amp; its Message is the way of Death (Spiritually). I suggest you followers take a turn around NOW for LIFE. Jesus Christ is ready to receive you and give you peace of mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is this grail message thing all about anyway? Why all the secrecy about this group? If your message is true&#8230;.. then PREACH IT! as God says. Get it out in the open! Go to every mountain and house-top and tell us what God said to you! Preach it; say it LOUD and make it CLEAR!<br />
Why do you subject your &#8220;captives&#8221; into reading 3 volumes of your message before they realise what they&#8217;re doing, they&#8217;re influenced. These are innocent minds seeking God whom you capture and give them &#8220;stones&#8221;.  Who told you Man is in-perfect? Havent you read in His Word that &#8220;He hath made all things well&#8221;?  </p>
<p>I know a lot of people in this group&#8230; All I have to say to you all is this: The Lord has placed before all man &#8216;Life &amp; Death&#8217; Choose Life that YOU MAY LIVE &amp; NOT DIE (i.e. Spiritually). The Grail Movement &amp; its Message is the way of Death (Spiritually). I suggest you followers take a turn around NOW for LIFE. Jesus Christ is ready to receive you and give you peace of mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I&#039;ve said before I am familiar with Bernhardt&#039;s work and I stand by my criticism of it. As a general point about new religious movements and Bernhardt&#039;s work in particular I will also say that your comment &quot;As we know most human being do not bother this days to delve into any matter deeply and rely heavily on the media for direction,thereby making people like yourself have a high duty to ensure that only the truth to the best of your knowledge is published.&quot; is a good example of the hokum I was complaining about before.

It is an arrogant, elitist and fanciful notion that conveniently places you and your ilk above other people and beyond their criticism. As Mona demonstrates above that is the true metaphysical nature of The Grail Message, a spiritual hidey-hole where people who want to feel superior to the rest of the world without actually having to prove themselves lurk in perpetuity, comforted by the warm embrace of a relativist echo chamber endless repeating a loop of orientalist gobbledygook. 

But that&#039;s my opinion of the movement, which I tempered in my original post where I relied on my training as a scholar of comparative religion to (briefly) examine the Grail Message and what relation it had to the off-shoots activity at all. This is not a condemnation of The Grail Movement, simply and examination of it. 

An examination that isn&#039;t far from the mark since neither you nor Mona have corrected it substantively but only came here an moralized about how i wasn&#039;t seeing the &quot;truth&quot; of the Grail Message. Since I&#039;m not a believer in it why should I?

I have no &quot;high duty&quot; to present your subjective opinion as Truth nor to philosophize in general. This is a blog, not a religious center or a dissertation. I take news and give my opinions on those stories, which you are free to disagree with. But if your point is I&#039;m doing you a disservice by not actively recruiting for you by claiming that The Grail Message is divinely inspired and awesome then we have little common ground.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I&#8217;ve said before I am familiar with Bernhardt&#8217;s work and I stand by my criticism of it. As a general point about new religious movements and Bernhardt&#8217;s work in particular I will also say that your comment &#8220;As we know most human being do not bother this days to delve into any matter deeply and rely heavily on the media for direction,thereby making people like yourself have a high duty to ensure that only the truth to the best of your knowledge is published.&#8221; is a good example of the hokum I was complaining about before.</p>
<p>It is an arrogant, elitist and fanciful notion that conveniently places you and your ilk above other people and beyond their criticism. As Mona demonstrates above that is the true metaphysical nature of The Grail Message, a spiritual hidey-hole where people who want to feel superior to the rest of the world without actually having to prove themselves lurk in perpetuity, comforted by the warm embrace of a relativist echo chamber endless repeating a loop of orientalist gobbledygook. </p>
<p>But that&#8217;s my opinion of the movement, which I tempered in my original post where I relied on my training as a scholar of comparative religion to (briefly) examine the Grail Message and what relation it had to the off-shoots activity at all. This is not a condemnation of The Grail Movement, simply and examination of it. </p>
<p>An examination that isn&#8217;t far from the mark since neither you nor Mona have corrected it substantively but only came here an moralized about how i wasn&#8217;t seeing the &#8220;truth&#8221; of the Grail Message. Since I&#8217;m not a believer in it why should I?</p>
<p>I have no &#8220;high duty&#8221; to present your subjective opinion as Truth nor to philosophize in general. This is a blog, not a religious center or a dissertation. I take news and give my opinions on those stories, which you are free to disagree with. But if your point is I&#8217;m doing you a disservice by not actively recruiting for you by claiming that The Grail Message is divinely inspired and awesome then we have little common ground.</p>
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