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		<title>By: The 4 hours</title>
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		<dc:creator>The 4 hours</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that this flu is a sighn of the end of days! It is the pale sickly horse found in the bible. Does anyone not seem alarmed about this ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that this flu is a sighn of the end of days! It is the pale sickly horse found in the bible. Does anyone not seem alarmed about this ?</p>
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		<title>By: Holiday Apartments In Southern Spain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Holiday Apartments In Southern Spain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 11:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s quite alarming to see how the various countries are reporting on the swine flu outbreaks.
Here in Spain I get to see CNN, BBC news from the UK and Spanish national news.
CNN as usual give very comprehensive coverage without over dramatising the situation, the BBC try and portray this is a minor inconvenience to a vacation, possibly as the only ones with the illness have very mild symptoms, and the Spanish news portray this is as the end of the world as we know it, hide indoors until you are either dead or the last person left alive on this planet...
Don&#039;t you just love it!
Personally I feel that the situation is being over played, OK sad for those families who have lost loved ones, but what about the average half a million deaths a year from other flu variations!
Just keep an open mind, check with a doctor if you get any of the symptoms, and cancel that trip to Mexico until it&#039;s all over...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s quite alarming to see how the various countries are reporting on the swine flu outbreaks.<br />
Here in Spain I get to see CNN, BBC news from the UK and Spanish national news.<br />
CNN as usual give very comprehensive coverage without over dramatising the situation, the BBC try and portray this is a minor inconvenience to a vacation, possibly as the only ones with the illness have very mild symptoms, and the Spanish news portray this is as the end of the world as we know it, hide indoors until you are either dead or the last person left alive on this planet&#8230;<br />
Don&#8217;t you just love it!<br />
Personally I feel that the situation is being over played, OK sad for those families who have lost loved ones, but what about the average half a million deaths a year from other flu variations!<br />
Just keep an open mind, check with a doctor if you get any of the symptoms, and cancel that trip to Mexico until it&#8217;s all over&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Simplified Tax Code, Obama Edition - Smart Girl Nation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simplified Tax Code, Obama Edition - Smart Girl Nation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 04:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] somehow amidst these concerns of grave national interest, and before swine flu began dominating the news cycle, little coverage was given to the implications of a significant tax [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] somehow amidst these concerns of grave national interest, and before swine flu began dominating the news cycle, little coverage was given to the implications of a significant tax [...]</p>
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		<title>By: officialtrash</title>
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		<dc:creator>officialtrash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 03:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah, one of many easy to read sources:

http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-sci-swine-reality30-2009apr30,0,3606923.story</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, one of many easy to read sources:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-sci-swine-reality30-2009apr30,0,3606923.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-sci-swine-reality30-2009apr30,0,3606923.story</a></p>
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		<title>By: officialtrash</title>
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		<dc:creator>officialtrash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 03:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Give me a fucking break. More people die from car crashes, heart attacks, and food poisoning than from the &quot;new&quot; H1N1 strain. This is alarmist reaction at its finest.

The &quot;hard&quot; numbers that the WHO and CDC put out are inconsequential. Even if you extrapolate these numbers out to ridiculous amounts like 100x the statistical probability of death from this flu is pretty damned low.

We&#039;re a bunch of scared little children. Mark my words when I say this will be about as bad as SARS. You remember the SARS epidemic don&#039;t you...? Oh yeah, that one didn&#039;t last long.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give me a fucking break. More people die from car crashes, heart attacks, and food poisoning than from the &#8220;new&#8221; H1N1 strain. This is alarmist reaction at its finest.</p>
<p>The &#8220;hard&#8221; numbers that the WHO and CDC put out are inconsequential. Even if you extrapolate these numbers out to ridiculous amounts like 100x the statistical probability of death from this flu is pretty damned low.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re a bunch of scared little children. Mark my words when I say this will be about as bad as SARS. You remember the SARS epidemic don&#8217;t you&#8230;? Oh yeah, that one didn&#8217;t last long.</p>
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		<title>By: Simplified Tax Code, Obama Edition : Jenn Q. Public</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simplified Tax Code, Obama Edition : Jenn Q. Public</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 23:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] somehow amidst these concerns of grave national interest, and before swine flu began dominating the news cycle, little coverage was given to the implications of a significant tax [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] somehow amidst these concerns of grave national interest, and before swine flu began dominating the news cycle, little coverage was given to the implications of a significant tax [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mindabyss &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Potential Swine Flu Pandemic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mindabyss &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Potential Swine Flu Pandemic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for Disease Control and Prevention CNN Red Alert Article Realtime Map of Swine Flu [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for Disease Control and Prevention CNN Red Alert Article Realtime Map of Swine Flu [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mah29001</title>
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		<dc:creator>mah29001</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idiotic 9/11 &quot;Truth&quot; Movement is already spinning the story that the U.S. government was &quot;behind&quot; the swine flu virus.  This is old classic Soviet KGB propaganda which these idiots are recycling.

Obama&#039;s twenty-sum year former pastor Jeremiah Wright said something very similar about HIV/AIDS.  Do these idiots realize that their disinformation will hurt the USA?  Apparently they don&#039;t care about that.

I have also already detailed that there is a segment of Russian citizens whom still see the USA as the &quot;enemy&quot;.  Even after the end of the Cold War.  They also believe ihe same crap the 9/11 &quot;Truth&quot; Movement believes on thsi swine flu episode was an &quot;inside job&quot; by the U.S. government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idiotic 9/11 &#8220;Truth&#8221; Movement is already spinning the story that the U.S. government was &#8220;behind&#8221; the swine flu virus.  This is old classic Soviet KGB propaganda which these idiots are recycling.</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s twenty-sum year former pastor Jeremiah Wright said something very similar about HIV/AIDS.  Do these idiots realize that their disinformation will hurt the USA?  Apparently they don&#8217;t care about that.</p>
<p>I have also already detailed that there is a segment of Russian citizens whom still see the USA as the &#8220;enemy&#8221;.  Even after the end of the Cold War.  They also believe ihe same crap the 9/11 &#8220;Truth&#8221; Movement believes on thsi swine flu episode was an &#8220;inside job&#8221; by the U.S. government.</p>
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		<title>By: Shailah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shailah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How scary!  Rob, I&#039;m so glad you covered this.  I don&#039;t always follow the news closely and I didn&#039;t realize how bad it was until I was reading your blog today...and now Barb&#039;s comment too!  Not that it will probably help much, but I&#039;m going out and getting vitamins and zinc as well as cold meds and supplies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How scary!  Rob, I&#8217;m so glad you covered this.  I don&#8217;t always follow the news closely and I didn&#8217;t realize how bad it was until I was reading your blog today&#8230;and now Barb&#8217;s comment too!  Not that it will probably help much, but I&#8217;m going out and getting vitamins and zinc as well as cold meds and supplies.</p>
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		<title>By: Barb Lamont</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barb Lamont</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 1918:

In large U.S cities, more than 10,000 deaths per week were attributed to the virus. It is estimated that as many as 50% of the population was infected, and ~1% died. To compare, in &quot;normal&quot; (interpandemic) years, it is estimated that between 10-20% of the population is infected, with a .008% mortality.

The fact the current &#039;swine flu&#039; has shown to be contagious is alarming. So far the virus has shown to have a 6% to 6.3% mortality rate. It may not seem like much, but please consider the following: The deadly influenza panic in 1918 had a mortality rate of under 1%.

This virus went on to kill tens of thousands of healthy people a day in large cities and up to 100 million people world wide. 

Viruses, like this strain of swine flu, kill their host by over-stimulating active immune systems that are robust and healthy. That is why the victims in Mexico were between the ages of 20 and 45.

Some have said that no one in the United States have died from the virus, so we need not worry. Experts say it is only a matter of time. The virus is not prevalent enough to reach statistical significance in the United States, with only a handful of confirmed cases. 93.7% of all Mexicans with the virus recovered.

More cause for worry: The 1918 virus started off &#039;mild&#039; before it mutated into a raging storm. It also does not mean we will see millions of deaths. It is too early to draw sweeping conclusions. Nevertheless, there is potential for a disastrous pandemic. If 50% of Americans catch this flu in the next two years, and the mortality rate stays at 6.3%, we would witness 20+ million deaths.

This strain of virus is more potent and more deadly than the virus that hammered the world in 1918 and 1919. Viruses come in waves. There are striking similarities to this virus and the virus that killed up to 100 million people in 1918. The first wave is historically more mild than the later waves.

In addition to this virus becoming more severe, it is mutating faster than previous virus that we have seen. In addition, this virus is nothing like we have ever seen before because it combines features from viruses natural in different parts of the globe. We are in uncharted territory.

If it follows the same path as the 1918 flu, we will see very damaging results. However, we must remember we are a global society now and the virus can spread quicker than we have ever witnessed in history. This is very concerning especially since the drugs we have now seem resistant.

While there have been no deaths in America, it is shadowed by the fact the common variable among the deaths seem to be age. While most American cases have involved the very young and very old (under 10 and over 50) the Mexican cases that ended fatally involved the robust and healthy (over 20 and under 45).

This virus kills the host by over-stimulating the immune system. The term that is used when the immune system over reacts is called a Cytokine Storm. It is usually fatal. During this â€œStormâ€ over 150 inflammatory mediators are released. This would account for the high mortality rate in 1918-19.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://tinyurl.com/d2te2f&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://tinyurl.com/d2te2f&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 1918:</p>
<p>In large U.S cities, more than 10,000 deaths per week were attributed to the virus. It is estimated that as many as 50% of the population was infected, and ~1% died. To compare, in &#8220;normal&#8221; (interpandemic) years, it is estimated that between 10-20% of the population is infected, with a .008% mortality.</p>
<p>The fact the current &#8216;swine flu&#8217; has shown to be contagious is alarming. So far the virus has shown to have a 6% to 6.3% mortality rate. It may not seem like much, but please consider the following: The deadly influenza panic in 1918 had a mortality rate of under 1%.</p>
<p>This virus went on to kill tens of thousands of healthy people a day in large cities and up to 100 million people world wide. </p>
<p>Viruses, like this strain of swine flu, kill their host by over-stimulating active immune systems that are robust and healthy. That is why the victims in Mexico were between the ages of 20 and 45.</p>
<p>Some have said that no one in the United States have died from the virus, so we need not worry. Experts say it is only a matter of time. The virus is not prevalent enough to reach statistical significance in the United States, with only a handful of confirmed cases. 93.7% of all Mexicans with the virus recovered.</p>
<p>More cause for worry: The 1918 virus started off &#8216;mild&#8217; before it mutated into a raging storm. It also does not mean we will see millions of deaths. It is too early to draw sweeping conclusions. Nevertheless, there is potential for a disastrous pandemic. If 50% of Americans catch this flu in the next two years, and the mortality rate stays at 6.3%, we would witness 20+ million deaths.</p>
<p>This strain of virus is more potent and more deadly than the virus that hammered the world in 1918 and 1919. Viruses come in waves. There are striking similarities to this virus and the virus that killed up to 100 million people in 1918. The first wave is historically more mild than the later waves.</p>
<p>In addition to this virus becoming more severe, it is mutating faster than previous virus that we have seen. In addition, this virus is nothing like we have ever seen before because it combines features from viruses natural in different parts of the globe. We are in uncharted territory.</p>
<p>If it follows the same path as the 1918 flu, we will see very damaging results. However, we must remember we are a global society now and the virus can spread quicker than we have ever witnessed in history. This is very concerning especially since the drugs we have now seem resistant.</p>
<p>While there have been no deaths in America, it is shadowed by the fact the common variable among the deaths seem to be age. While most American cases have involved the very young and very old (under 10 and over 50) the Mexican cases that ended fatally involved the robust and healthy (over 20 and under 45).</p>
<p>This virus kills the host by over-stimulating the immune system. The term that is used when the immune system over reacts is called a Cytokine Storm. It is usually fatal. During this â€œStormâ€ over 150 inflammatory mediators are released. This would account for the high mortality rate in 1918-19.</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/d2te2f" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/d2te2f</a></p>
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