Comments on: Chi-Coms Show World How to Deal with Militant Islam? http://www.red-alerts.com/the-front/chi-coms-show-world-how-to-deal-with-militant-islam/ Vigilance is the best deterrence Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:14:33 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Rob Taylor http://www.red-alerts.com/the-front/chi-coms-show-world-how-to-deal-with-militant-islam/comment-page-1/#comment-23139 Rob Taylor Thu, 11 Sep 2008 06:00:29 +0000 http://www.red-alerts.com/the-front/chi-coms-show-world-how-to-deal-with-militant-islam/#comment-23139 SMP:Exactly my my worry. The Chi-coms support Jihadism in Africa and elsewhere so I'm not willing to hold them up as an example of anything. I just wonder if we're a little too soft to do what's necessary. Compare what the Chinese just did to the wailing and gnashing of teeth we have here when the Feds just want to know what book someone took out of a library. Muslims Against Sharia: I agree but I think we must go further. We must arm and train moderates, and like the communists we should stoke revolutionary movements there. Instead of just Democracy we should have supported the modernized monarchies like the Shah of Iran who provided women's and minorities with many more rights than the current Iranian government. Drill for oil here, and destroy the Fundamentalists there and allow reformists to truly take over. SMP:Exactly my my worry. The Chi-coms support Jihadism in Africa and elsewhere so I’m not willing to hold them up as an example of anything. I just wonder if we’re a little too soft to do what’s necessary. Compare what the Chinese just did to the wailing and gnashing of teeth we have here when the Feds just want to know what book someone took out of a library.

Muslims Against Sharia: I agree but I think we must go further. We must arm and train moderates, and like the communists we should stoke revolutionary movements there. Instead of just Democracy we should have supported the modernized monarchies like the Shah of Iran who provided women’s and minorities with many more rights than the current Iranian government. Drill for oil here, and destroy the Fundamentalists there and allow reformists to truly take over.

]]> By: Muslims Against Sharia http://www.red-alerts.com/the-front/chi-coms-show-world-how-to-deal-with-militant-islam/comment-page-1/#comment-23118 Muslims Against Sharia Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:33:27 +0000 http://www.red-alerts.com/the-front/chi-coms-show-world-how-to-deal-with-militant-islam/#comment-23118 The best way to support moderate Muslims is to stop pumping petro-dollars into radical Muslim countries. I don't mean to sound like a tree-hugger, but oil is the lifeblood of Islamic radicalism. Without oil revenues, Islamic fundamentalism will shrivel up into obscurity just like fascism. The best way to support moderate Muslims is to stop pumping petro-dollars into radical Muslim countries. I don’t mean to sound like a tree-hugger, but oil is the lifeblood of Islamic radicalism. Without oil revenues, Islamic fundamentalism will shrivel up into obscurity just like fascism.

]]> By: SMP http://www.red-alerts.com/the-front/chi-coms-show-world-how-to-deal-with-militant-islam/comment-page-1/#comment-23114 SMP Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:26:15 +0000 http://www.red-alerts.com/the-front/chi-coms-show-world-how-to-deal-with-militant-islam/#comment-23114 Sorry, didn't mean to imply those were your feelings. I have a dozen things going on around me. I meant that I agree with your words but also feel ... etc ... ;) Sorry, didn’t mean to imply those were your feelings. I have a dozen things going on around me. I meant that I agree with your words but also feel … etc … ;)

]]> By: SMP http://www.red-alerts.com/the-front/chi-coms-show-world-how-to-deal-with-militant-islam/comment-page-1/#comment-23113 SMP Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:24:39 +0000 http://www.red-alerts.com/the-front/chi-coms-show-world-how-to-deal-with-militant-islam/#comment-23113 I agree wholeheartedly with your feelings here. As much as I detest China for its numerous and barabaric human rights violations, I have to admit I have a sense that they will be the only country not over thrown by the militant Islamists if things continue as they are. It's just how I feel when I look at the big picture, and I hate saying that because of how much I loathe and disagree with China. I agree wholeheartedly with your feelings here. As much as I detest China for its numerous and barabaric human rights violations, I have to admit I have a sense that they will be the only country not over thrown by the militant Islamists if things continue as they are. It’s just how I feel when I look at the big picture, and I hate saying that because of how much I loathe and disagree with China.

]]> By: Rob Taylor http://www.red-alerts.com/the-front/chi-coms-show-world-how-to-deal-with-militant-islam/comment-page-1/#comment-23094 Rob Taylor Wed, 10 Sep 2008 04:06:16 +0000 http://www.red-alerts.com/the-front/chi-coms-show-world-how-to-deal-with-militant-islam/#comment-23094 mah: I think they have a deal with the Islamists where they can treat their internal Muslim populations however they want as long as the support the wider Jihad (like in Darfur) but I was talking about the tactics. I cringe to think we will have to do the same thing here, but I realize unless we make significant strides in the war on militant Islam, and are able to turn America's mosques over to the more sedate Muslim happy to be in America, these may be the tactic we'll end up having to employ. Claudia: Exactly my point. The Ottoman turks had Christian and other non-Muslim allies in their army, we must emulate that part of their tactic and make America appealing to "moderate" Muslims by projecting the strenght need to protect them from Islamists. mah: I think they have a deal with the Islamists where they can treat their internal Muslim populations however they want as long as the support the wider Jihad (like in Darfur) but I was talking about the tactics. I cringe to think we will have to do the same thing here, but I realize unless we make significant strides in the war on militant Islam, and are able to turn America’s mosques over to the more sedate Muslim happy to be in America, these may be the tactic we’ll end up having to employ.

Claudia: Exactly my point. The Ottoman turks had Christian and other non-Muslim allies in their army, we must emulate that part of their tactic and make America appealing to “moderate” Muslims by projecting the strenght need to protect them from Islamists.

]]> By: Jenn Q. Public http://www.red-alerts.com/the-front/chi-coms-show-world-how-to-deal-with-militant-islam/comment-page-1/#comment-23085 Jenn Q. Public Tue, 09 Sep 2008 21:39:47 +0000 http://www.red-alerts.com/the-front/chi-coms-show-world-how-to-deal-with-militant-islam/#comment-23085 Your post really crystallizes the conflict between defending religious freedom in America and protecting everything America represents for future generations. That simply cannot be accomplished without the vocal support of moderate Muslims, but clearly more needs to be done to ensure our safety and the continuance of the Western way of life. Your post really crystallizes the conflict between defending religious freedom in America and protecting everything America represents for future generations. That simply cannot be accomplished without the vocal support of moderate Muslims, but clearly more needs to be done to ensure our safety and the continuance of the Western way of life.

]]> By: mah29001 http://www.red-alerts.com/the-front/chi-coms-show-world-how-to-deal-with-militant-islam/comment-page-1/#comment-23082 mah29001 Tue, 09 Sep 2008 20:09:48 +0000 http://www.red-alerts.com/the-front/chi-coms-show-world-how-to-deal-with-militant-islam/#comment-23082 I wouldn't trust Communist China on fighting these self-described Islamic radicals. Why are they still aligned with them when it comes to protecting Iran then? If that's the case here. I wouldn’t trust Communist China on fighting these self-described Islamic radicals. Why are they still aligned with them when it comes to protecting Iran then? If that’s the case here.

]]> By: Claudia http://www.red-alerts.com/the-front/chi-coms-show-world-how-to-deal-with-militant-islam/comment-page-1/#comment-23079 Claudia Tue, 09 Sep 2008 18:58:32 +0000 http://www.red-alerts.com/the-front/chi-coms-show-world-how-to-deal-with-militant-islam/#comment-23079 <i>have often tried joining groups in the Counter Jihad movement but have always found that they are either too willing to use an extremist model of dealing with Islam like the Center for Vigilant Freedom or else unwilling to truly deal with Islamism at all, instead becoming little more than Internet salons where people forward each other interesting articles but do little to fight the enemy. Somewhere between the two lies the path we must take, but I have not seen any organization espousing that middle ground, espousing uncompromising strength in the face of the enemy with a place at our side for our Muslim allies.</i> I think basically the same that you write in that paragraph. I don't believe that treating all Muslims are terrorists is sound or just and I do believe that doing nothing is also very wrong in the long run. But I don't see politicians very interested really in Islamist infiltration nor normal people, who (I think) that are more comfortable blaming the West than the islamists as that (they consider) is going to let them live in peace without any kind of problems with Islamism. What I fear is that each day that elapses without finding a solution and act, we are losing solutions which could be more logical and accurate. have often tried joining groups in the Counter Jihad movement but have always found that they are either too willing to use an extremist model of dealing with Islam like the Center for Vigilant Freedom or else unwilling to truly deal with Islamism at all, instead becoming little more than Internet salons where people forward each other interesting articles but do little to fight the enemy. Somewhere between the two lies the path we must take, but I have not seen any organization espousing that middle ground, espousing uncompromising strength in the face of the enemy with a place at our side for our Muslim allies.

I think basically the same that you write in that paragraph. I don’t believe that treating all Muslims are terrorists is sound or just and I do believe that doing nothing is also very wrong in the long run. But I don’t see politicians very interested really in Islamist infiltration nor normal people, who (I think) that are more comfortable blaming the West than the islamists as that (they consider) is going to let them live in peace without any kind of problems with Islamism.

What I fear is that each day that elapses without finding a solution and act, we are losing solutions which could be more logical and accurate.

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