Comments on: Environmental Protection Agency Orders 40 Glock-19s http://www.red-alerts.com/un-american-activities/environmental-protection-agency-orders-40-glock-19s/ Wed, 08 Feb 2012 17:57:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: BelchSpeak » Post Topic » The EPA orders 40 Glock Handguns and RightWingers Panic http://www.red-alerts.com/un-american-activities/environmental-protection-agency-orders-40-glock-19s/comment-page-1/#comment-62060 BelchSpeak » Post Topic » The EPA orders 40 Glock Handguns and RightWingers Panic Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:47:07 +0000 http://www.red-alerts.com/?p=3034#comment-62060 [...] agents they have and how many arrests they make depends on the size of the agency. As I noted on Rob Taylor’s Red Alerts blog here, I work with many of these agencies and am often amused that some of these small agencies [...] [...] agents they have and how many arrests they make depends on the size of the agency. As I noted on Rob Taylor’s Red Alerts blog here, I work with many of these agencies and am often amused that some of these small agencies [...]

]]> By: BelchSpeak http://www.red-alerts.com/un-american-activities/environmental-protection-agency-orders-40-glock-19s/comment-page-1/#comment-62049 BelchSpeak Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:56:34 +0000 http://www.red-alerts.com/?p=3034#comment-62049 <b>All Federal Agencies Have Armed Personnel.</b> This is because all have at the very least, Inspectors General who are charged with enforcing the peace on Government Premises and investigating crimes related to the agency. I work with many of these agencies and am often amused that some of these small agencies have armed personnel. The USDA, who inspect cattle and radishes have agents that carry guns. The USGS, who take mineral samples to determine coal or iron content, and who make maps, have agents that carry guns. Ditto Postal Inspector of the Post Office. Bureau of Land Management? Yep. Bureau of Indian Affairs? Yep. Even the Federal Election Commission and the Railroad Retirement Board. And yeah, its all constitutional. Think about the specialized missions of some of these agencies. USDA makes laws governing the processing of livestock. What if someone tried to process infected animals like chickens or BSE cattle? For USGS, what if someone was salting a mine or trying to sell a dry oil well? Yeah, federal agencies make laws that they are charged to enforce, and all of them have IG's to make sure they toe the line with what Congress tells them to do. I had seen this story about the EPA guns and thought it was a non story, but its cool you posted the EPA most wanted! Didn't think they had one of those but in retrospect it makes sense to me. All Federal Agencies Have Armed Personnel.
This is because all have at the very least, Inspectors General who are charged with enforcing the peace on Government Premises and investigating crimes related to the agency.

I work with many of these agencies and am often amused that some of these small agencies have armed personnel. The USDA, who inspect cattle and radishes have agents that carry guns. The USGS, who take mineral samples to determine coal or iron content, and who make maps, have agents that carry guns. Ditto Postal Inspector of the Post Office. Bureau of Land Management? Yep. Bureau of Indian Affairs? Yep. Even the Federal Election Commission and the Railroad Retirement Board.

And yeah, its all constitutional. Think about the specialized missions of some of these agencies. USDA makes laws governing the processing of livestock. What if someone tried to process infected animals like chickens or BSE cattle? For USGS, what if someone was salting a mine or trying to sell a dry oil well? Yeah, federal agencies make laws that they are charged to enforce, and all of them have IG’s to make sure they toe the line with what Congress tells them to do.

I had seen this story about the EPA guns and thought it was a non story, but its cool you posted the EPA most wanted! Didn’t think they had one of those but in retrospect it makes sense to me.

]]> By: PatrickKelley http://www.red-alerts.com/un-american-activities/environmental-protection-agency-orders-40-glock-19s/comment-page-1/#comment-62036 PatrickKelley Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:06:27 +0000 http://www.red-alerts.com/?p=3034#comment-62036 I went to that Most Wanted link, thinking there might be wanted posters for members of ELF and ALF but, no surprise, there was none to be found. Still, some of them were understandable. The guy importing the cars was smuggling them past customs, although of course that should put him under the purview of a different agency. Otherwise, some of the other stuff involved dumping hazardous materials in oceans and other waterways, like in one example a tributary of the Mississippi River. I also noticed that a lot of the people listed seem to have originated from Muslim countries. So yes, I would say a Glock might not be such a bad idea, even if the original regulations that inspired their need in some cases might be. I went to that Most Wanted link, thinking there might be wanted posters for members of ELF and ALF but, no surprise, there was none to be found. Still, some of them were understandable. The guy importing the cars was smuggling them past customs, although of course that should put him under the purview of a different agency. Otherwise, some of the other stuff involved dumping hazardous materials in oceans and other waterways, like in one example a tributary of the Mississippi River. I also noticed that a lot of the people listed seem to have originated from Muslim countries. So yes, I would say a Glock might not be such a bad idea, even if the original regulations that inspired their need in some cases might be.

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