Comments on: When Hot Air Attacks! Fred Thompson Taking Heat from the Rightroots http://www.red-alerts.com/un-american-activities/when-hot-air-attacks-fred-thompson-taking-heat-from-the-rightroots/ Wed, 08 Feb 2012 17:57:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Stix http://www.red-alerts.com/un-american-activities/when-hot-air-attacks-fred-thompson-taking-heat-from-the-rightroots/comment-page-1/#comment-3155 Stix Wed, 01 Aug 2007 21:59:17 +0000 http://www.red-alerts.com/un-american-activities/when-hot-air-attacks-fred-taking-heat-from-the-rightroots/#comment-3155 Rob I totally agree. What are we becoming, a foaming at the mouth bunch of hot headed people that can not tolerate any one that siagrees with all of our beliefs. I think Fred Thompson will be a great president and having a Lebanese campaign manager is not like he is aligning himself with Al Queda. And allthis crap about theNAU CFR is getting a little bit tiring. The CFR has been around for a long time and is a oraganization that is trying to get freer trade, is that a bad thing. And the NAU is a crock, what we wnat is freeer trade with Mexico and Canada. Jeez, some of the right are starting to sound like Truthers or the DUmmes/Koskids. Conspiracy theories left and right. Rob I totally agree. What are we becoming, a foaming at the mouth bunch of hot headed people that can not tolerate any one that siagrees with all of our beliefs. I think Fred Thompson will be a great president and having a Lebanese campaign manager is not like he is aligning himself with Al Queda. And allthis crap about theNAU CFR is getting a little bit tiring. The CFR has been around for a long time and is a oraganization that is trying to get freer trade, is that a bad thing. And the NAU is a crock, what we wnat is freeer trade with Mexico and Canada. Jeez, some of the right are starting to sound like Truthers or the DUmmes/Koskids. Conspiracy theories left and right.

]]> By: Kelly http://www.red-alerts.com/un-american-activities/when-hot-air-attacks-fred-thompson-taking-heat-from-the-rightroots/comment-page-1/#comment-3142 Kelly Wed, 01 Aug 2007 14:24:49 +0000 http://www.red-alerts.com/un-american-activities/when-hot-air-attacks-fred-taking-heat-from-the-rightroots/#comment-3142 Actually, I switched my criticism to say you might not be reading the comments section of Hot Air, which cannot be disproved because you've posted in the comments a few times. And really, I have no particular beef with you. I just think you're being a little over the top. There's just no reason to compare Hot Air to the "bad guys." Personally, I think we can disagree with someone's politics AND consider that he/she may be supporting terrorism. We can also disagree with someone without the latter, but that doesn't mean we can't do both. For instance, I disagree with Lynne Stewart's politics, but I'm also completely convinced that she engaged in an act of treason. I won't throw the t-word around much, but that doesn't mean it can't be used. Actually, I switched my criticism to say you might not be reading the comments section of Hot Air, which cannot be disproved because you’ve posted in the comments a few times. And really, I have no particular beef with you. I just think you’re being a little over the top. There’s just no reason to compare Hot Air to the “bad guys.”

Personally, I think we can disagree with someone’s politics AND consider that he/she may be supporting terrorism. We can also disagree with someone without the latter, but that doesn’t mean we can’t do both.

For instance, I disagree with Lynne Stewart’s politics, but I’m also completely convinced that she engaged in an act of treason. I won’t throw the t-word around much, but that doesn’t mean it can’t be used.

]]> By: Rob Taylor http://www.red-alerts.com/un-american-activities/when-hot-air-attacks-fred-thompson-taking-heat-from-the-rightroots/comment-page-1/#comment-3111 Rob Taylor Tue, 31 Jul 2007 22:31:58 +0000 http://www.red-alerts.com/un-american-activities/when-hot-air-attacks-fred-taking-heat-from-the-rightroots/#comment-3111 Chill? Is it hard to read my posts back there in 1993? Of course it's OK to disagree, and I won't even accuse you of not reading the above post, like you and Kelly accusing me of not reading Hot Air despite more than 100 hat tips to the site in my archives. And this isn't a mild criticism, DS is accusing a man of supporting terrorism, literally lobbying for terorists, are you saying he's done that? Is that the reason an Arab would be against profiling Arabs? Is that the reason a Lebanese man would be supported by Lebanese people? Because he's in bed with Al-Qaeda? If we're the good guys, we'd be able to disagree with Abrahim's politics without assuming he is in fact supporting terrorism, and that Fred is unable to defend us because Abrahim works for him. That sounds a lot like what the "bad guys" are doing, which is what my point is. Mathew Hopkins thought he was one of the good guys too... Chill? Is it hard to read my posts back there in 1993?

Of course it’s OK to disagree, and I won’t even accuse you of not reading the above post, like you and Kelly accusing me of not reading Hot Air despite more than 100 hat tips to the site in my archives. And this isn’t a mild criticism, DS is accusing a man of supporting terrorism, literally lobbying for terorists, are you saying he’s done that? Is that the reason an Arab would be against profiling Arabs? Is that the reason a Lebanese man would be supported by Lebanese people? Because he’s in bed with Al-Qaeda?

If we’re the good guys, we’d be able to disagree with Abrahim’s politics without assuming he is in fact supporting terrorism, and that Fred is unable to defend us because Abrahim works for him. That sounds a lot like what the “bad guys” are doing, which is what my point is.

Mathew Hopkins thought he was one of the good guys too…

]]> By: Jenn http://www.red-alerts.com/un-american-activities/when-hot-air-attacks-fred-thompson-taking-heat-from-the-rightroots/comment-page-1/#comment-3110 Jenn Tue, 31 Jul 2007 22:26:00 +0000 http://www.red-alerts.com/un-american-activities/when-hot-air-attacks-fred-taking-heat-from-the-rightroots/#comment-3110 labwrs: I think Rob was saying that if you look around <i>this blog</i> you would see evidence of the amount of time he spends at Hot Air. He links to Hot Air and Michelle all the time. Reading the above post, it sounds to me almost like Rob is disappointed in AP and MM's inability or unwillingness to disagree with Abraham's political viewpoints while still recognizing that his political acumen might be an asset to Thompson's campaign. Reading the recent posts about Fred on Hot Air, I too am disappointed, but mostly in how many commenters are behaving like sheeple - worshipping Fred when AllahPundit praises the "red meat" he delivers, and abandoning Fred when AP and MM criticize him. BTW, I'm all for the media and blogosphere helping to uncover all of the facts so we can make our own decisions. Unfortunately, people seem too willing to let AP and MM make their decisions for them. Obligatory Disclaimer: I happen to be married to Rob, and though I rarely agree with him 100%, I think he's on the mark here. labwrs:

I think Rob was saying that if you look around this blog you would see evidence of the amount of time he spends at Hot Air. He links to Hot Air and Michelle all the time.

Reading the above post, it sounds to me almost like Rob is disappointed in AP and MM’s inability or unwillingness to disagree with Abraham’s political viewpoints while still recognizing that his political acumen might be an asset to Thompson’s campaign. Reading the recent posts about Fred on Hot Air, I too am disappointed, but mostly in how many commenters are behaving like sheeple – worshipping Fred when AllahPundit praises the “red meat” he delivers, and abandoning Fred when AP and MM criticize him.

BTW, I’m all for the media and blogosphere helping to uncover all of the facts so we can make our own decisions. Unfortunately, people seem too willing to let AP and MM make their decisions for them.

Obligatory Disclaimer: I happen to be married to Rob, and though I rarely agree with him 100%, I think he’s on the mark here.

]]> By: labwrs http://www.red-alerts.com/un-american-activities/when-hot-air-attacks-fred-thompson-taking-heat-from-the-rightroots/comment-page-1/#comment-3104 labwrs Tue, 31 Jul 2007 22:09:08 +0000 http://www.red-alerts.com/un-american-activities/when-hot-air-attacks-fred-taking-heat-from-the-rightroots/#comment-3104 BTW, I think your posts on this topic on Hot Air explains your position much clearer. I see where you were going and understand how you got to your reasoning. I dont agree but that's OK isnt it? BTW, I think your posts on this topic on Hot Air explains your position much clearer. I see where you were going and understand how you got to your reasoning. I dont agree but that’s OK isnt it?

]]> By: labwrs http://www.red-alerts.com/un-american-activities/when-hot-air-attacks-fred-thompson-taking-heat-from-the-rightroots/comment-page-1/#comment-3103 labwrs Tue, 31 Jul 2007 21:55:21 +0000 http://www.red-alerts.com/un-american-activities/when-hot-air-attacks-fred-taking-heat-from-the-rightroots/#comment-3103 Rob, I didnt say I agree completely with DS. I clearly state I find her over the top at times but AS's record speaks to where his sympathies lie and they are with "Open Borders" and Arabs. I dont think a "Lebanese Christian" is a problem..I admire Bridget Gabrielle enormously. I think SA's lobbying for suspect groups whose members (Muslims) have attacked US soil is discomforting. It is obvious in your response to Kelly that you really dont read or comment at HA much or often. I think you are having a knee-jerk reaction to mild criticism and think you should realize any vetting by "our side" of Fred is better than from the "other side". You, me, the commenters above, MM and HA are the good guys here. Chill. Rob,
I didnt say I agree completely with DS. I clearly state I find her over the top at times but AS’s record speaks to where his sympathies lie and they are with “Open Borders” and Arabs. I dont think a “Lebanese Christian” is a problem..I admire Bridget Gabrielle enormously. I think SA’s lobbying for suspect groups whose members (Muslims) have attacked US soil is discomforting.
It is obvious in your response to Kelly that you really dont read or comment at HA much or often. I think you are having a knee-jerk reaction to mild criticism and think you should realize any vetting by “our side” of Fred is better than from the “other side”. You, me, the commenters above, MM and HA are the good guys here. Chill.

]]> By: Rob Taylor http://www.red-alerts.com/un-american-activities/when-hot-air-attacks-fred-thompson-taking-heat-from-the-rightroots/comment-page-1/#comment-3102 Rob Taylor Tue, 31 Jul 2007 21:32:23 +0000 http://www.red-alerts.com/un-american-activities/when-hot-air-attacks-fred-taking-heat-from-the-rightroots/#comment-3102 Look for the occasional Rob Taylor comment. I mostly lurk, but if you look around here you'll see many many links to their site. Look for the occasional Rob Taylor comment. I mostly lurk, but if you look around here you’ll see many many links to their site.

]]> By: Kelly http://www.red-alerts.com/un-american-activities/when-hot-air-attacks-fred-thompson-taking-heat-from-the-rightroots/comment-page-1/#comment-3101 Kelly Tue, 31 Jul 2007 21:17:42 +0000 http://www.red-alerts.com/un-american-activities/when-hot-air-attacks-fred-taking-heat-from-the-rightroots/#comment-3101 Personally, I think some of the early posts about Fred got to be over the top. His good old boy conservative tough talk got a little trite but was deemed post worthy anyway. The Christian vs. atheists posts get to be a little over the top as well, but they get a lot of comments, same with posts against or for Fred. If you do frequent Hot Air, though I don't recognize your screen name over there, then maybe it's the comments you should check out a bit more. People at Hot Air go crazy for Fred posts and it's an understandable consequence that Hot Air will post a lot about Fred, good and bad. Personally, I think some of the early posts about Fred got to be over the top. His good old boy conservative tough talk got a little trite but was deemed post worthy anyway.

The Christian vs. atheists posts get to be a little over the top as well, but they get a lot of comments, same with posts against or for Fred.

If you do frequent Hot Air, though I don’t recognize your screen name over there, then maybe it’s the comments you should check out a bit more. People at Hot Air go crazy for Fred posts and it’s an understandable consequence that Hot Air will post a lot about Fred, good and bad.

]]> By: Rob Taylor http://www.red-alerts.com/un-american-activities/when-hot-air-attacks-fred-thompson-taking-heat-from-the-rightroots/comment-page-1/#comment-3098 Rob Taylor Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:58:45 +0000 http://www.red-alerts.com/un-american-activities/when-hot-air-attacks-fred-taking-heat-from-the-rightroots/#comment-3098 <p align="left">Kelly-I clearly am at Hot Air frequently, as you'd see if you looked around. I agree with them more often than not. Are you saying though that running that piece by Debbie three times wasn't over the top? And do you think using Debbie's "If you don't agree with me you're a traitor" type of logic makes you better than a lefty?</p> Kelly-I clearly am at Hot Air frequently, as you’d see if you looked around. I agree with them more often than not. Are you saying though that running that piece by Debbie three times wasn’t over the top? And do you think using Debbie’s “If you don’t agree with me you’re a traitor” type of logic makes you better than a lefty?

]]> By: Rob Taylor http://www.red-alerts.com/un-american-activities/when-hot-air-attacks-fred-thompson-taking-heat-from-the-rightroots/comment-page-1/#comment-3097 Rob Taylor Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:55:16 +0000 http://www.red-alerts.com/un-american-activities/when-hot-air-attacks-fred-taking-heat-from-the-rightroots/#comment-3097 Labwrs- I wasn't saying that HA and Kos would literally become mirrors of each other. If you think D.S. calling a Lebanese Christian a terror sypathizer, and referencing herslef to prove it, is constructive critcism, I hate to think of what you consider slander. Maybe you shoulfd re-read my post, it's not about that at all, but about whether or not the right will start forcing candidates to toe a line. I thought we were a big tent party, but HA's readership is making the argument that we shouldn't be. Labwrs- I wasn’t saying that HA and Kos would literally become mirrors of each other.

If you think D.S. calling a Lebanese Christian a terror sypathizer, and referencing herslef to prove it, is constructive critcism, I hate to think of what you consider slander. Maybe you shoulfd re-read my post, it’s not about that at all, but about whether or not the right will start forcing candidates to toe a line. I thought we were a big tent party, but HA’s readership is making the argument that we shouldn’t be.

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