Why I don’t Support Ed Brown and You Shouldn’t Either
I’m a little “l” Libertarian, mainly because I believe that the country needs a strong Reagan style foreign policy to protect us while we indulge in our Libertarian debaucheries. I have a place in my heart for anti-establishment rebels who believe in liberty over law, freedom over formality. That being said, I don’t have a place in my heart for suicidal “tax protester” and the newest hero of the Alex Jones set, Ed Brown.
Brown is now barricaded in his home, refusing to come out until the Government bows to his demands that he not have to pay the back taxes he owes, since he and his wife hadn’t paid taxes for more then a decade. The wife Elaine Brown made most of the money, and admitted that she “did some research” to conclude that paying taxes was unconstitutional.
In other words, like Wesley Snipes, she got suckered. Now the U.S. Marshals are going to take her house to pay the back taxes.
Elaine went to court, presented her case, and now resides in Massachusetts with her son. Ed however, has stayed in his New Hampshire home and called for support from other kooks, telling them they should come to his house armed and help him shoot it out with the feds. That, however, isn’t where he lost me, although anyone seeking to overthrow my government is my enemy.
No, Ed lost me before that, as all his ilk do, with their conspiracy mongering about “Zionists,” their unseemly desire for martyrdom, their links with the unsavory “patriot” movement which seems to be comprised of neo-Nazi’s, abductees, and the assorted tin foil enthusiasts who are the unfortunate fringe of Libertarianism. Make no mistake, Ed Brown has claimed, in this interview posted on GunShowOnThe Net, that taxes are part of the larger conspiracy by “Zionists,” that the U.S. government is responsible for 9/11, and that the only way to “glory” is through dying by his side in defense of his property.
And there are plenty of folks drinking his kool-aid. Like the guy who conducted the above interview Kenneth Hensley, whose website is dedicated to raising funds to buy a bus ticket there so he can fight the feds with his new hero. Ken’s not alone – the N.W.O. nuts who were all over the Internet in the 90’s are converging on Brown’s house with guns to fight our government.
It should be noted that officials haven’t yet threatened him, they haven’t done anything outside their jobs. The Browns dodged their taxes and got caught. Now they owe back taxes. They can’t pay, and thus will have their house auctioned off. They got suckered into thinking they could use a convoluted argument avoid taxes, and it turned out they were wrong.
Now that the law’s caught up with him, Ed wants as many people as possible to come and die a glorious death in his burning house, which he hopes the feds will set alight Waco style. This isn’t patriotism, it isn’t even paranoia. This is insanity. And supporting him will feed into it.
Ed Brown isn’t a hero, he’s a crank, a man who refuses to take any responsibility for his own actions and worse, wants others to pay the ultimate price so that he can continue to avoid being held responsible.
If people die in New Hampshire in the coming weeks, the responsibility will lay not at the feet of the civil servants doing their jobs, but at the doorstep of a conspiracy theorist, and the loathesome Internet rabble who support him.
- Wesley Snipes to Feds:Here’s My Race Card, I’ll be Going Now
- Gone Fishin’
- OY Vey! Republicans Fall for anti-Semitic Web Hokum!
- Ed Brown Supports Cindy Sheehan!
on January 25th, 2007 at 7:48 pm
What a waste of energy you spent writing this article on Ed Brown. Instead of just spewing garbage, why don’t you show everyone where he’s wrong about the Income Tax? Show us all, Einstein.
You probably think those “cultists” in Waco deserved having a tank driven in on their property, too.
You should also read a book on American History and tell us what the Founding Fathers would say about this.
Forget it. Move to China instead.
on January 25th, 2007 at 8:58 pm
I have a better idea “Johnny”, why don’t you read my post and respond to the ideas in it instead of beating the decayed, rotting horse carcass of “What would the Founding Fathers do?”, because I’ll tell you now, they’d support America, not Ed Brown.
You think the income tax is illegal, o.k., get a lawyer and go to court. I’m with you. Putting out a call for 30-40 yr olds who spend their days surfing infowars to come and DIE will not repel taxes. But it will feed into the messiah complex of a nut who believes that “zionists” (pronounced Jews) run the country and 9/11 was an inside job.
Ed Brown is wrong about the income tax, but that’s not the point of my post, the point is that if he wants to get gunned down by the feds, he can be man enough to do it alone. Mark my words, once the bullets start flying Ed will surrender and leave the rest of the suckers to die.
By the way, this nonsense, and the tragic deaths of the Davidians are two different things. The Davidians weren’t grifters trying to dodge paying taxes, Ed Brown is. And dying for his “right” to not take legal recourse against what he thinks is unconstutional, but instead commit crimes, makes all his supporters suckers.
on January 25th, 2007 at 9:46 pm
I believe Ed would pay, if shown the law – (not the case law).
Regardless of his belief in other theories, one thing is a fact, our tax money is going to waste thanks to politicians and big government, getting bigger every day. This is part of why people left the old world, to start this country.
The income tax is less then 100 years old, or so I hear, where is the law that makes this legal? it seems very anti-American to me.
I support the idea of some military presence , but I would like to see a self sufficient, small government.
on January 25th, 2007 at 10:25 pm
Well Blue I don’t think Ed would pay if “shown the law”, his tax protest isn’t a Libertarian statement it’s the vain actions anti-American crank trying hard to get himself killed so various cretin can point to him and say “see, Amerikka sucks” and then maybe, I dunno, blow up a federal building.
Look, you can’t disregard his other theories, because his other theories (which are all warmed over conspiracy theories stolen from 18th and 19th century pamphleteers) are directly responsible for his tax protest ideology. The Tax Protest movement is in fact old news, and since its inception was linked primarily to groups whose stated purposes was the overthrow of our government. White Nationalist groups for example.
The law that makes the income tax legal by the way is the Sixteenth Amendment by the way.
I’m for a repeal of income tax myself, but I would do it by running for office and introducing legislation, not getting a buch of marks to shoot it out with the feds. I also would pay for the repeal by abolishing social security, unemployment insurence and public libraries, because unless we pay taxes there’d be none of that. Oh, and I’d make home owners pave their own roads and fix their own power lines. If I were a radical Tax dodger that is. I’m happy to pay reasonable taxes to have a public library, but that’s another discussion.
Also, people didn’t leave the old world because they were Libertarians concerned with big government, they left to escape violent persecution by nuts who beleived Puritans/Jews/random folk were part of a conspiracy to hurt their country. Our first pilgrims would flee Brown and his supporters as surely as they fled the Church of England.
And a serious question, why is it up to everyone else to prove Ed wrong? He’s the one breaking the law, I say he should prove to me he’s right. Can any of you actually prove income tax is illegal without resorting to convoluted theories that have been already discredited? Can you show me where in the Constitution it says income taxes are illegal? Our representitives implemented the income tax, and it is through our representitives that the tax should be repealed. That’s democracy, that’s America. Run for office, start a campaign, but don’t kill your fellow Americans when you disagree.
This thread is really depressing.
on February 2nd, 2007 at 10:08 pm
Our founding father’s never intended to tax wages and labor.
30% now = 30% SLAVE, and if that’s ok then pretty soon 50%, then 95%.
At what point will you OBJECT because in your heart do you ever see taxes going DOWN or inflation stopping?
on February 2nd, 2007 at 10:47 pm
Rob, rob, rob. The truly sad thing about all of this is we are doing the governments work for them by fighting amongst each other instead of focusing on what’s important. In that light, before you start name calling like some spoiled playground bully, do your homework. Case in point, the 16th Amendment did not give Congress any new power concerning taxation. Sorry, it’s a fact. Another reason I can tell you haven’t done your homework is because you spew the same old warmed over tribe about the country going down the tubes (as if it hasn’t already) if we stopped paying the federal income tax. ALL of the federal income tax goes to paying the interest on the national debt. It’s a fact. All the things you speak of are paid for by the other 100 types of taxes on Americans. And by research I mean something more substantial than reading a couple of the mainstream news rags they call newspapers. If you want proof that there is no law, start with reading the tax code. You might want to read the Constitution again too, but this time actually think while you’re reading. Another good place to start if you really want to understand, is to watch Aaron Russo’s America: From Freedom to Fascism and try to have an open mind. Just do a search on Google video. Oh, and a couple of last points, the government is your worst enemy and 9/11 was an inside job. Do some homework before you reply.
on February 2nd, 2007 at 10:59 pm
Please all,
Go to Truth Radio.com.
Interview with Ed Brown was on January 30th.
Next nite interview was with Charlie Miller.
Charlie gave Ed the answer,and the only direction to go.
Ed is so illinformed. He has remedy,and he needs to find out why and how.
The IRS is NOT his enemy. He has to learn HOW to BALANCE the books.
It is all about accounting,and he can only do it through Admirality Court.
Judge McCauliff did not recognize Ed Brown the living man.
Ed has to operate as the third party in the proceedings.
Learn everyone. It is the ONLY way.
Bless your journey !
on February 2nd, 2007 at 11:01 pm
http://www.truthradio.com
Pastor Massad archive
on February 2nd, 2007 at 11:16 pm
Oh. My. God.
Let me “think” about this one first. Your point is that reading “mainstream rags” makes me ignorant and that you getting all your info from websites (run by people who may or may not be retarded) makes you better educated? Are you kidding? My counter points are thus:
A) Your 16th amendment arguement has been tried in court. More then once. If you had a library card (but I know you don’t, you wouldn’t want “the man” to know where you are) you could read up on the long, sordid, and ultimately criminal history of the so-called tax protester movement. So why don’t you put your energy into changing the law, instead of breaking it?
B) 100’s of taxes? Besides state and sales tax, and sometimes things like estate taxes (which I’m against), name these taxes. Or is this warmed over “tribe,” which I take it means “tripe” which is what we educated people say.
C) Not having been bullied on a playground I’m unfamiliar with what part of me saying that begging people to come shoot it out with the feds is wrong is to be considered bullying. Is it my insistence that we follow the rule of law, or my not believing that shooting U.S. Marshals is heroic? You tell me.
D) Aaron Russo’s a hillbilly and a communist agent. And like most people he doesn’t actually know what Fascism is. Fascism is a form of Socialism where the state uses an established religion as the basis for social policy and national pride. I know this because I “did my homework” and read Mussolini’s essay on Fascism. Chavez is a fascist, Bush is a Neo-Conservative Republican. Russo’s a crank. You do your side no favor by bring him into the fray.
E) Prove it. Your thesis is that I’m wrong because I don’t know what you, the mighty tbird does. So enlighten me. Where in the tax code does the government admit that taxes are illegal? I pay taxes in CT and NY, I do my own, and I’ve not seen this section.
I could go on, but I’ll just toss you a soft ball. Why should we protest taxation by killing innocent people who are just trying to do their jobs? Even the communist organizations like A.N.S.W.E.R. have peaceful protests - what gives Ed Brown, and I assume you, the right to murder government officials, as opposed to protesting like normal folk?
on February 3rd, 2007 at 12:07 am
The government can stop all this crap any time. People like you hear are the problem. Wake up
on February 3rd, 2007 at 12:19 am
Rob Taylor,
Since you seem to think that government and taxes are so great, let me ask you this. I don’t agree with things that the federal government does such as the war in Iraq. I also don’t believe in agencies such as the DEA. If I pay money to the federal government, some of it will probably go to these things that I strongly disagree with. Why is this fare? Oh yea, I forgot, Americans are supposed to be puppets and obey government bureaucrats because they know best.
I get it now.
not
on February 3rd, 2007 at 12:17 pm
This is directed to Rob Taylor:
Rob, I assume by your rhetoric that you work in some way for the Federal Government. You have been propositioned to answer the question of what law makes us liable for an income tax and your response is the same as the DOJ and IRS…..the 16th admendment.
Well sir, this either proves that you are an “agent” of the Fed or a sadly uninformed citizen. The 16th amendment bestowed no new taxing power on Congress. So if there could not be a tax on labor before the 16th amendment then it can not be used as an excuse to tax our labor since. This is the law as confirmed by the US Supreme Court on several occasions.
Title 26 is 100% constitutional and legal, however, the way it is applied is a 100% illegal and unconstitutional. Income has been defined by the Supreme Court to mean “profit from corporate gain”. I don’t know about you but most people are not “corporations” so they can’t have corporate gain which means they are not liable.
Now, on to your other position about challenge the law in court to get it overturned…….this once again either shows you’re an agent or a uninformed citizen. You say that the 16th amendment argument has been tried in court (btw, I do have a library card), and as I stated above the Supreme Court has decided that. Unfortunately when it comes to tax cases the lower Federal courts they ignore the Supreme Court! Noone who challenges tax laws of the Fed get a fair trial. They are not allowed to present evidence about the law in any form. In fact in one case not to long ago the presiding Judge angrily announced to the defendent….”I will not allow the law in my courtroom”. Then the judge issues instructions to the jury, and most citizens not knowing there rights as a juror, follow those instructions that are so narrow as to basically be a directed verdict of guilty. So you see there is no challenging the law in court.
So you see sir that your position is weak, that is why you resort to name calling and propoganda. That is typical of agents of the state. You proffer that Aaron Russo is a communist crank, without any proof just conjecture, when in reality his documentary is factual and precise. You as an agent of the state must not like it because it threatens your income base.
I fully expect to be your next target of hyperbole, so please do us all a favor. I you wish to respond to this, do it in a civilized manner. Don’t resort to name calling and misrepresentation. The people are tired of that and after all “We the People” are the sovereigns and the government be it State or Federal are the servants. America is waking up to the lies and misrepresentations and are gathering strength in the movement to bring our servant government back into it’s proper place.
on February 3rd, 2007 at 2:33 pm
Poor Rob,
You are in the dark.
To enlighten you, We Americans do not live in a democracy and hopefully
never will.We live in a republic.With that said,I will not call you names
[very childish Rob] nor will I continue to explain our government and how
misinformed you truly are. You really should do your homework before
making statements that are untrue. It makes you look really bad.
I’ll pray for you Rob.
on February 3rd, 2007 at 5:34 pm
Wow.
Let me reiterate this point and make a few general responses.
If you believe that taxes are “illegal” go to court and prove it. Don’t threaten to kill people, don’t but crappy movies on Google video, either get a law degree or a lawyerl and prove your arguement in court.
Shooting it out with the government won’t make taxes go away, it will damage the reputation of libertarianism, private gun ownership and those of us who want lower taxes however, by associating us with people like you.
Your conspiracy mongering, your innane “do your homework” responses and your big plan to get shot to death in some Jew hating truther’s house isn’t going to convince me, or any rational person, that we shouldn’t pay taxes.
If your arguement is that everyone who disagrees with you is “an agent” and that no one gets a fair trial, and the governments is controlled by Jews/Aliens/Satan, then the ball is in YOUR court. Post the transcripts of these “unfair” trails, interview the lawyers who worked the cases, talk to the IRS, prove the semi-sane part of your arguement before jumping in to the whole “take the blue pill” kiddie pool.
I’ve got $100 here for any one of you that can go provide me with a credible arguement that taxes are illegal OR that Jews/aliens/Satan control the government. By credible I mean real hard data, not the “he triggered my alternate CIA implanted personality by puting the word talk in his post” evidence that cretin like Ed Brown, Aaron Russo and most of you point to.
Don’t pray for me Cheryl, pray for the poor suckers who are going to be either rotting in prison or put in the ground if Ed and company have their way.
And by the gods man, there’s a whole site here full of posts you’ll hate, diversify!
on February 3rd, 2007 at 6:34 pm
Wow Rob, your rhetoric is so atiypical of either a uneducated person or an agent of the government…..which is it? I am going to address your previous reply by quoting it piece by piece:
(Rob:) If you believe that taxes are “illegal” go to court and prove it. Don’t threaten to kill people, don’t but crappy movies on Google video, either get a law degree or a lawyerl and prove your arguement in court.
(Reply:) As I stated originally, Title 26 in its entirety is completely legal and constitutional. The way it is applied is completely illegal and unconstitutional!
(Rob:) Shooting it out with the government won’t make taxes go away, it will damage the reputation of libertarianism, private gun ownership and those of us who want lower taxes however, by associating us with people like you.
(Reply:) I could not agree with you more on this! Suprised? However, we live in a country where the rule of law is supposed to reign supreme, the purpose of that doctrine is so that there is a peaceful path to remedy when anyone or the government violates our rights. So what happens when this doctrine is violated and a citizens due process rights are violated during the process of a “tax trial”? Are you supposed to just say ok I’ll let you steal my money with no due process and be happy?
(Rob:) Your conspiracy mongering, your innane “do your homework” responses and your big plan to get shot to death in some Jew hating truther’s house isn’t going to convince me, or any rational person, that we shouldn’t pay taxes.
(Reply:) What are you talking about? Do you need to be medicated?
(Rob:) If your arguement is that everyone who disagrees with you is “an agent” and that no one gets a fair trial, and the governments is controlled by Jews/Aliens/Satan, then the ball is in YOUR court. Post the transcripts of these “unfair” trails, interview the lawyers who worked the cases, talk to the IRS, prove the semi-sane part of your arguement before jumping in to the whole “take the blue pill” kiddie pool.
(Reply:) No, it is everyone’s right to disagree with anything they want to disagree with. My point was that I have had much experience working with tax officials both agency and political and they all use circular arguments about the 16th admendment being their permission to levy a tax on labor….which is absolutely false! Since you stated it like it was a fact I assumed you were either uneducated or a agent.
(Rob:) I’ve got $100 here for any one of you that can go provide me with a credible arguement that taxes are illegal OR that Jews/aliens/Satan control the government. By credible I mean real hard data, not the “he triggered my alternate CIA implanted personality by puting the word talk in his post” evidence that cretin like Ed Brown, Aaron Russo and most of you point to.
(Reply:) As I have stated Title 26 is perfectly legal and constitutional, however, I have also stated that it is absolutely misapplied to the common person. So in turn I will challenge you……I have $1000 for you if you can show me with Supreme Court case law that my “income” is subject to Title 26 of the CFR. So now the ball is back in your court! As for your diatribe about the CIA and all of that….I think you need medication.
In closing I will say to you Rob…..I am a lawyer…..I know how to read case law and apply statutes. I have seen first hand how the Federal Courts handle tax cases. There is no chance of a fair trial for anyone accused of “tax evasion” or “willfull failure to file”, you will be found guilty unless one of the jurors exercises their right to use his\her own judgement and ignore the judges instructions and ask questions of the court…..such as what law (statute) makes a persons wages subject to Title 26. Only then will a person be found not guilty.
on February 4th, 2007 at 1:10 am
I just had a crazy thought Rob. Maybe all of these defenders of ed brown are snarking at you from the standoff zone. Is this still going on? I have not been following it, and can not find anything since Feb 1.
on February 4th, 2007 at 1:53 am
Yeah, it’s still going strong last I heard. There’s all these people trying to figure out ways to get themselves, and their guns, to Brown’s place for the blaze of glory. I was working on another post about it today, but then I got distracted with the genecide in South Africa, so I’ll probably do something on that first.
Most of these guys probably aren’t there, but I heard that the Brown supporters on the scene have a big internet footprint … including a MySpace.
I guess to contact teen girls? Any of you guys want to chime in on that one? Bill? Ryan?
on February 4th, 2007 at 10:42 am
New stuff from Google this morning. Thought I’d share it with you.
http://preview.tinyurl.com/288xcz
Keene Free Press, NH – 1 hour ago
Ed Brown vs. IRS Standoff 2/4/07 Update
From Lauren:
Report from Ed’s place.
Things were pretty quiet there today under the new satin blanket of snow. Some people napped, some watched TV, Bernie made some excellent chili. “Peace” was still working, doing research on sovereignty and uploading videos.
—> There are some new technologies installed, internet viewers should see a upgrade in communications soon. Other improvements are also underway.
The MySpace account: http://www.myspace.com/time2makeastand
on February 4th, 2007 at 2:21 pm
Rob,
You and your kind amaze me…….instead of debating on the facts of a subject you instead choose to resort to name calling and innuendo in a feeble attempt to discredit anyone who presents facts you are unable to rebut.
As I have said in previous post, I believe that Mr. Brown has chosen the wrong path to protest the violation of his rights that will, unfortunately, probably lead to his death.
With that said, I pose this question to you;
What in your opinion is the remedy when your rights are violated and the justice systems ignores your complaint? If your answer is that you would just take it and move on then please send me your Full Name, Address, and SS number so I can send you a bill for a non-existent debt.
The only difference between me sending you a bill for a non-existent debt and the IRS sending you a bill is that if you don’t pay the IRS’s they will illegally, administratively without due process of law, send a notice of levy to your bank, notice of garnishment to your employer, and place notice of lien upon your real property(all of which are not ordered by a court) . I on the other hand would have to do it the correct way by bringing suit against you in a court of law, specifically stating what cause of action or statute that you have violated that created a liability on your part, and proving it with legally admissable evidence.
In previous post you make the assertion that you believe in the rule of law and if someone disagrees with the law they should get an attorney and challenge it. IF you truly believe that then you will agree that the Supreme Court is the law of the land. So my question to you is how do you challenge an illegal action of the government when the inferior lower federal courts ignore the Supreme Court? The Doctrine of Precedent is fundamentally the most important legal doctrine of the rule of law in this country, but in every tax case it is ignored. Federal judges in the lower courts routinely ignore all Supreme Court decisions regarding taxation and due process.
I must say that any response you have to this that does not address the facts in a competent manner, free from defamation or innuendo about anyone, will serve to prove that either you are just an uneducated person just trying to feel important or an agent provocateur attempting to obfuscate the real truth from your fellow americans.
This issue with Mr. Brown, while tragic, is serving as a rallying cry to millions of americans who are becoming more aware that they have been misled by the federal government on the tax issue, among other things, and will increasingly bring pressure to bare on our elected representatives to end the fraud being committed by the IRS and the Federal Reserve.
on February 4th, 2007 at 6:08 pm
Bill, you’re tacitly approving a group of people planning to kill their fellow Americans. But that’s your right. The reason I’m not going to have an endless debate about the legalities of tax protesting is because I have a business (for which I pay taxes) to run. I will be posting several items about Brown you’ll find equally offensive in the coming days.
You’re the one trying to distract from the issue at hand (Ed Brown asking people to come help him kill people), which if you read the post waaaay up there you’d see was the point. You think taxes are illegal, you’re a lawyer, go to court. Or run for office, or gods forbid have a PEACEFUL demonstration. You know that the “millions” of those rallying to Brown are in fact people with a desire to either die in a gunfight or kill state and local officials. You’re O.K. with that as long as we’re all on record as knowing you’d wag your finger and “tut-tut” at Brown and his fellow “patriots” when they widow some poor woman whose husband’s standing around trying to do his job.
As I’ve said in all my posts, prove you’re right with an actual arguement, not by saying “well Rob you’re not right so I am,” which you’ll remember from college logic is a fallacy. You think I’m misinformed, then send all your info and show me where I, and the lawyer my wife and I use who advises us to pay taxes, is wrong.
Instead you’ll keep throwing the ball to me and saying “O.K. you prove that I have to pay taxes. Well sorry Bill, but I don’t care if you do or don’t pay taxes, but if you’re making the case that something’s unconstitutional, isn’t it on you to back up that claim? And if you can prove it, don’t you then have the solution to your problem, a rock solid argument you can take to the supreme court and have them rule on it? Or if not the courts, how about the media? Congress? Or are you saying that there is no solution except overthrowing our government?
on February 5th, 2007 at 2:49 am
Rob,
I must apologize to you for getting detoured from the initial point you made. As I have stated before, I do not agree with the way Mr. Brown is handling his situation. I am not in anyway supporting his “call to arms” and personally think it is repulsive. My point as to the rallying cry was to political action not military. Hopefully it will serve as a “call to arms” for the people to use the greatest weapon at their disposal……..the vote. We can all stop this nonsense with pressure brought upon our legislators to fix the problem.
So with that said, I will bid a farewell and goodbye to this blog.
on February 5th, 2007 at 6:06 pm
Rob, Is that a Constitutional $100, or the counterfiet Fed. Reserve Notes? If you don’t understand, read the U.S. Constitution, Art.1 sec. 8 5th clause, ” To coin Money, regulate the value thereof,” Do you remember a silver dollar? Now read 6th clause. When you offer $100. Constitutional I will Prove to you with no more than a copy of the Constition that an unapportioned direct tax is unConstitutional. PUT UP OR SHUT UP. A hint Artcl. 6 clause 2 is very important for you to read. If you can comprehend it, that will be you’re last post. Mr. Brown doesn’t want to overthrow the gov, just remove unConstitutional gov.
on February 5th, 2007 at 6:32 pm
Gabriel-
I’ll give you $100 of my “counterfiet” money if you can by-pass literally DECADES of case law, and prove that your arguement will get you out of paying taxes. You may want to read my Tax Lawa for Dummies (and Ed Brown) post first however. It will explain to you (or link to) the several reasons that arguement has been shot down in court.
Mr. Brown wants to gather a buch of people around him to kill innocent people going about their bussiness. Challenge taxes if you want, but are you really saying the local officials just doing their jobs deserve to die? That their wives and childre should have to bury someone they love to prove your point? Brown or you cound’t protest peacefully? Or run for office on a no-taxes platform?
You want us to support your desire for bloodshed and chaos, because you read a book by Irwin Shiff? Get real Gabriel.
on February 5th, 2007 at 8:54 pm
When someone comes to your front door with guns to conduct “their business” through force I would assume it was a robbery. The tax collectors who brandish these weapons in an aggressive manner can not expect to have force met with anything less lethal or legal.
on February 5th, 2007 at 11:02 pm
Right on, Mike R. Everyone better watch out for the tax collectors aggressively brandishing their weapons! Beware the sharpened pencils and freshly printed forms!
on February 13th, 2007 at 1:45 pm
““What would the Founding Fathers do?”, because I’ll tell you now, they’d support America, not Ed Brown.”
- BWHAHAHAHA!!! What a nutjob! By that rationale the founding fathers would have stayed loyal to Britain. You’re obviously not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Pick up a history book.
on February 13th, 2007 at 6:03 pm
Oh Johnny, your such a card.
The founding fathers would create a peaceful process for which Americans can reconcile their differences with each other without resorting to killing each other. Remember that what you’re advocating isn’t “resistance” but killing some poor slob who’s just doing his job. Your supporting killing Americans because you don’t like a government policy. In that respect you’re no different then Al-Qaeda or the anti-American communist organizations this site usually covers.
Englan didn’t give the colonials a fair means to address their objections to being taxed WITHOUT representation. You and ED have a voice in our democratic process. It just so happens that the majority don’t agree with you, thus anti-tax parties aren’t heavily represnted in government (especially on the federal level) though Libertarians do do fairly well in some localities.
As an aside, accusing me of being slow witted, two weeks after your first post, seems like projection. Also, I defy you to show me the history book where one of the founding fathers recomends getting a bunch of unemployed ’90’s holdover conspiracy theorists to come to your house and attempt to kill peace officers while trolling MySpace for more cannon fodder.
on February 13th, 2007 at 7:47 pm
“The founding fathers would create a peaceful process for which Americans can reconcile their differences with each other without resorting to killing each other.”
“and attempt to kill peace officers”
- – Where are you getting that people WANT to kill others? All people want is for the IRS to clearly explain their position to the American people. What’s so hard about that?
On a related topic: What do you think about the Federal Reserve? Do you believe that it’s existence is constitutional?
on February 13th, 2007 at 9:42 pm
Your being disingenuous. Ed Brown (who didn’t show up to court to have the I.R.S. or anyone else “explain” anything to him) barricaded himself in a house, put out a call for people to “bring thier guns” and help him make his stand, and you’re trying to say he doesn’t want to kill anyone?
Do you really believe that?
The IRS has explaineed their position to the American people, and they do so every damn year when they say “Tax time! Pay up or go to jail”, you see Johnny, THAT’S their position. You just don’t agree with it.
Now, not that you actually read what I wrote but, as I said, I’m with you up ’til that point if you want to lobby for reform, run for office on a no tax platform (Libertarian) get a lawyer and go to court. But Brown is going beyond that and is demanding his “right” to commit violence when he doesn’t get his way in court.
Agree with him if you want, but at least admit that you’re not moved at all by state and local officials dying (or Ed Brown supporters for that matter) to prove your point. Be man enough to say, like the Revolutionary Communist Party or the Aryan Nations or a host of other anti-American traitors, that what you’re really “gunning for” is violent revolution, not a victory in court or a dialog between the people and the I.R.S.
I think the Fed isn’t in the constitution but is nessecery for a large industrialized nation where money flows as freely as it does. Laws against having sex with children aren’t “in the constitution” either, but we both support those. The real question is whether or not the Federal Reserve is unconstitutional, which I don’t beleive it is. This however isn’t a related topic, unless we begin to dicuss whether or not it’d be o.k. to shoot up the folks that work there too. (I’m against it by the way)
on February 14th, 2007 at 12:03 am
“put out a call for people to “bring thier guns” and help him make his stand, and you’re trying to say he doesn’t want to kill anyone?
Do you really believe that?”
- If he wanted to kill someone over this then why wouldn’t he have already done that? He’s had many years to have done so.
What do you do if the courts are rigged? If you actually watch “America: Freedom To Fascism” you’ll see judges saying “Supreme Court Rulings are inapplicable to the IRS” or “I will not allow the law in my court room.” Do you be a good little slave and submit when you aren’t wrong? He’s also stated many times that he’ll pay the income tax if they’ll show him the law that requires him to do so. It’s not like he’s alone in this. There are THOUSANDS of good law abiding Americans that want their questions answered as well. Are they ALL “conspiracy theorists”?
“or a host of other anti-American traitors”
- I agree that there are such traitors out there. But Ed Brown is not a traitor. I am not a traitor. The Patriot Movement is not traitors. Their Constitutionalists. Many of our corrupt politicians who swore to “defend and protect” the Constitution are the traitors.
“The IRS has explaineed their position to the American people, and they do so every damn year when they say “Tax time! Pay up or go to jail”, you see Johnny, THAT’S their position.”
- Uhhh…. No they haven’t. They just say DO IT. That ain’t good enough in an alleged free country.
“I think the Fed isn’t in the constitution but is nessecery for a large industrialized nation where money flows as freely as it does”
- What does that mean?
“Laws against having sex with children aren’t “in the constitution” either, but we both support those.”
- The reason that we have that law is b/c it’s protecting the RIGHTS of a child. We also don’t allow children to posess firearms b/c they aren’t yet intelligent enough to handle the responsibility that comes with that right.
Completely the opposite of the Fed which violates the rights of the people. And the Federal Income Tax goes towards the interests on the debt, not schools and roads etc.
Give me 8 minutes of your time………
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....&eurl=
on February 15th, 2007 at 10:47 pm
Guys, I surfed in here after searching Brown links.
Look, this Rob guy who wrote this is just a big fat troll. He’s a liar and a pussy looking for somebody to get so angry they lose it and post what NEEDS to be done to take the country back. Once you do that, he’ll report you to the CIA.
Don’t play this lying fag’s game. He’s just trying to push your buttons. Y’know, like Madonna does? The last thing she did was hang herself from a cross, wearing a crown of thorns to start her latest tour.
This Rob guy is a like a little kid eating his own boogers to get a reaction. Just ignore him. Stop posting and wasting your time here. The only reason why he posts garbage like that and leaves the barn door open is so some of you might lose it and get yourselves sent to jail with something you post here.
Don’t take the bait. Oh, wait, did I just take the bait? No, I didn’t. I’m not gonna bother typing for an hour to engage him on Zionism and 911, I’m just telling the rest of you not to waste your time here.
Shut your cock holster, Rob. Oh, whoops–it’s already full.
WORD.
on February 15th, 2007 at 11:16 pm
That’s good advice, liyglukyhguokly, thank you.
I can see that must be the reason for such an incendiary blog, which does leave itself open for comments–angry ones, at that.
I’d just like the politely point out that Mr. Taylor here really loves to call people names. He does that to dehumanize his target, Ed Brown.
Just for the record, I’d like to note:
Russo documented a group that sued to find the law, and the State told us that they don’t have to show us anything.
We have lost our gold; we are not permitted to audit Fort Knox; we have been enslaved via a fiat (paper) currency. Some of the private owners of the Federal Reserve are Jewish, yes, but most are not. But since a few are, those who protect the system label anyone who criticizes it as a Nazi. I have to admit it’s effective. Unfair, but effective.
We are supposed to have wise people running our system, our county. Economics wizards, but these people, who are supposed to be among the best of us, have been screwing our country into the ground ever since the Fed was established. Coincidence? I think not.
Far from the rhetoric of the person who owns this blog, most couples both have to work full time just to be able to make ends meet–when they can. It shouldn’t be that way. It’s not right.
Our currency has been devalued by design. Iraq and Iran have no armies to send here. They are enemies of Israel, and we do the bidding of Israel.
Gosh, I guess that makes me an “anti-semite.” Yeah, as if criticizing the policy of Italy makes me an “anti-Italian.”
Israel is a country. One that has no right to exist, but still a country. Judaism is a religion. Try to keep them separate, Rob.
I think that says it all. Let’s not post here anymore.
Let Rob eat his boogers by himself.
on February 16th, 2007 at 3:19 pm
Ouch. So I’m a “fag” who’s trying to get a reaction from people by calling them names. Nice try.
I won’t be reproting anyone to the CIA, and the reason I leave the comments open is so rational folks can see that, far from being “Patriots” most of the Ed Brown supporters are psuedo-Libertarian versions of the posters on DailyKos. When I say “People who claim Jews are secretly running America are anti-Semites” it’s based on the fact that the theory was popularized by anti-Semites. It’s not to provoke angry reactions from you are anyone else, you see, I don’t know or care about you as an individual. This is a Pro-America, anti-Communist anti-Revolutionary blog.
I’d put forward that I stoped responding to comments on this two week old post a few days ago, and when I did I suddenly got called a “fag” and worse. It is you who want me to respond, but I’m busy. Busy making money in our “screwed to the ground” economy, busy enjoying my life in the greatest country in the world, busy living in a nice area where people who freak out at the drop of a hat are picked up by the cops. Whoops, was that baiting you?
Anyway, grow up. Israel isn’t making us do their bidding, your your theory that Iran couldn’t send troops here is based on the racist assumption that middle-easterners are incapable of doing what white folks like yourself are, and saying Israel has no right to exist, thus it doesn’t matter if it gets wiped out, is anti-Semitic because the process of removing Israel involves killing millions of Jews, which you’d find acceptable but if they were people like yourself you wouldn’t. That’s what makes it anti-Semitic. Think about it for a second.
I welcolm the day you stop posting here, but we all know you’ll just post under a different name again, don’t we?
P.S.
Eat boogers? Fag? What are you a 6 year old?
on February 17th, 2007 at 4:36 am
” your theory that Iran couldn’t send troops here is based on the racist assumption that middle-easterners are incapable of doing what white folks”
Ha! The same shit you got from Ward Churchill. Fuck Israel. Where the fuck is the homeland for American Indians, and their nukes? Where’s the homeland for the Black man, with his nukes?
The word is getting out, asshole. We’re treating people like you for the pieces of shit you are. “Greatest country in the world.” Not since the Federal Reserve took over, borrowing worthless paper in our name and charging us interest on it, got us all working like maniacs, husband and wife together, all in debt, all paying huge taxes, the dollar worth next to nothing–you can go to hell.
Fuck you.
Fuck your “greatest country in the world” BULLSHIT meant to make us ashamed and afraid to talk.
Fuck your lies–you did call Brown names–you are the fucking six year old.
Fuck the demand that any more of our soldiers die for Israel.
Fuck invading Iran for Israel.
FUCK ISRAEL.
FUCK WHAT PEOPLE LIKE YOU HAVE TO SAY! Shove your goddamned endless “anti–semite” bullshit RIGHT UP YOUR ASS! God bless Ed Brown and every other man he inspires. Fuck your banks, your endless debt based on worthless paper, your worthless invasions, your lying mainstream media and psyop dickweeds like you! Fuck you!
on February 18th, 2007 at 3:57 am
Ha ha!
Here’s Wolf Blitzer getting his ass kicked
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....&eurl=
Go Ed Brown.
We will MAKE this the best country again.
on February 18th, 2007 at 3:11 pm
By the gods!
Alright, I’ll give you people one last comment to have fits about, then I’ll let you lurk about on this post dreaming of the day of your “revolution.”
Here’s a few points you should think about however:
1) What does Israel, Iraq or any other radical leftist cause have to do with 1)killing U.S. Marshals, local cops or any other American? By the logic displayed here one would think that if you don’t like a policy, you’re allowed to murder people at random. The Black Panthers don’t like American policies, are they allowed to kill you?
2) Besides not coming up with a verdict that you want to hear, what’s the evidence that the dozens of judges who’ve heard tax protest cases are part of the conspiracy? Is everyone who disagrees with you part of it? And does this mean that Ed Brown and company should then be allowed to kill people who’ve had nothing to do with the case?
3) Ed Brown’s belief in various conspiracy theories, including ones adopted mostly by the anti-American Communists Left like ANSWER, should be examined. Why is it o.k. for supporters to site various conspiracies, but out of bounds for me or anyone else to site belief in them as an indication of the relitive veracity of an arguement?
4)Why do so many of the comments here contain references to the discredited Satanic Ritual Abuse/Mind Control fad of the ’90’s? Shouldn’t that be evidence of the paranoia, or at least gullibility, of the movement? If not why?
5) Why is it impossible for anyone to respond to the actually content of the post? Ed Brown wants people to die in his house, I think that’s wrong, I think he’s taking advantage of some people in an effort to escape paying for his crime and that the imagined firefight he’s seeking is an attempt at suicide by cop. Why should I feel different?
6) Will you be e-mailing the grieving families of all the people who die if Brown gets his way, calling them “fags” and “psyops dickweeds” when they mourn publically for this tragedy? Is my desire that Americans not kill Americans more offensive then yours to see Americans kill each other? Why?
I will be leaving all the comment here up uncensored forever, as a testement to the true face of Brown’s supporters, irrational, incapable of restraint, bigoted and above all very much anti-American. I hope that people coming to view this post spend some time reading the comments so that they can see for themselves what Ed Brown, and those that carry his water, are really all about.
on February 20th, 2007 at 4:23 am
testing..this hould be fun…gotta make sure it works
on February 20th, 2007 at 5:51 am
Okay…
But don’t bug me on spelling, as yours is mistaken, too. Not gonna spend all night on this thing…
From your first sentence: “That being said, I don’t have a place in my heart for suicidal ‘tax protester’ and the newest hero of the Alex Jones set, Ed Brown.”
You introduce him with a faux title, then place Alex Jones before his name, and THEN you give us Ed Brown. You’re no journalist. I guess “blogger” is any twit with a computer and an ego. You make him out to be a goof before you even type his name.
“Brown is now barricaded in his home, refusing to come out until the Government bows to his demands–”
I’m not spending all night on this going over every word, but you’re a weak progagandist.
“refusing to come out until the Government bows to his demands–”
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It’s the Government forcing him to bow to its demands. It demands we pay tax, interest tribute to a system which borrows money in our name without our permission from a fake bank which creates the papaer from thin air, squanders it, and charges us interest on it.
Can you explain a national debt of close to 9 trillion? YOu think that’s okay, huh, bub?
CLose to half a trillion pissed away on IRaq. Borrowed, at interest. Iraq had no WMDs. IRaq was surrounded by our military, but bush said, “Saddam must surrender in 24 hours or we attack.” Remember that, chowderhead? That was the reason we went to war. That’s why we killed hundreds of thousands, including 3000 of our own, and blew close to half a trillion.
Iraq is now a mess, and the taxpayers are holding the bag. Coincidence? I think not.
“the N.W.O. nuts”
Nuts. Kooks. You keep the names flying, and you do so first. That’s why I call you a treasonous cocksucker, since that is what you are.
Y’see, cowardly douchebag, you say “the N.W.O. nuts,” but Iraq is now a disaster, the American taxpayer is poorer now than he ever was, and Bush himself said in the movie “Why We FIght,” that Saddam had fuck-all to do with 911. Hmmmm…but he sure did talk about 911 all the time he talked about the need to invade. That’s what I mean by “psyop.”
I hate your treasonous idols, but I gotta admit that I RESPECT that they are SMART. Iraq is a mess on purpose. We are deeper in debt on purpose. We have chaos and poverty on purpose. That’s what your neocons produced.
Now on to your points. For ease of reading, my responses will be in caps, and no, I don’t mean it to look as if I’m yelling, but most people will forget your original points……..
1) What does Israel, Iraq or any other radical leftist cause have to do with 1)killing U.S. Marshals, local cops or any other American? By the logic displayed here one would think that if you don’t like a policy, you’re allowed to murder people at random. The Black Panthers don’t like American policies, are they allowed to kill you?
“What does Israel, Iraq or any other radical leftist cause”
YOU COMBINE THEM ALL INTO ONE. THAT’S ALL YOU PEOPLE DO.
BESIDES, ISRAEL IS NOT A “LEFTIST CAUSE.” A CAUSE IS SOMETHING YOU WANT TO ARISE. IF ANYTHING, WITH ALL THE MONEY IT HAS TAKEN FROM MY POCKET, ISRAEL IS YOUR “CAUSE.” Y’KNOW, LIKE THE “CAUSE” OF FEMINISM? I KNOW SOME OF US HAVE BEEN SWEARING, BUT YOU CAN”T WRITE ABOUT POLITICS WORTH A DAMN. AND, FEMINISM WAS PROMOTED BY THE BANKSTERS. I’M BEYOND “RIGHT AND LFET,” NOW, PAL.
“killing U.S. Marshals, local cops or any other American?”
SO, WE’RE KILLERS, HUH? LET ME EXPLAIN IT TO YOU.
THE STATE BORROWS US INTO THE GROUND, PLUS INTEREST, THEN IT COMES TO US TO PAY. IF WE CAN’T PAY (SOME DON’T WITHHOLD TAX, SOME ARE TOO POOR TO PAY), THEN THE STATE WILL COME FOR OUR HOME. IF WE DON’T WANT TO GIVE IT UP, BECAUSE WE FEEL IT UNJUST TO SURENDER TO A CRAZY GOVERNMENT, DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN, THAN BORROWS AND SQUANDERS ALL THE TIME, THEN WE HAVE A CHOICE:
POLITELY LOSE OUR HOME, OR RESIST.
AFTER WE RESIST, WE CAN BE ARRESTED AND GO TO JAIL.
IF WE FEEL IT UNJUST, THEN WE CAN RESIST AGAIN. IF WE DO SO, THE GUNS COME OUT.
LISTEN, IDIOT, IF ONE COP CAME TO ARREST US, IT WOULD BE A FIST FIGHT, BUT IT’S ALWAYS 5 OR 10 OR 100 COPS AGAINST ONE MAN. TASERS, PEPPER SPRAY, GAS, RUBBER BULLETS, AND ALL KINDS OF OTHER SHIT. WHY? BECAUSE WE REFUSE TO PAY.
IS IT NICE TO KILL ANYBODY? NO. IS IT NICE TO KILL THOSE WHO DON’T WANT TO PAY UNJUST TAX, LOSE THEIR HOMES, AND ALSO DON’T WANT TO GO TO JAIL? NO.
YOU ONLY SEE THE SHERIFFS. I SEE EVERYBODY INVOLVED. THE SHERIFF IS AT THE RESISTER’S DOOR, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
2) Besides not coming up with a verdict that you want to hear, what’s the evidence that the dozens of judges who’ve heard tax protest cases are part of the conspiracy? Is everyone who disagrees with you part of it? And does this mean that Ed Brown and company should then be allowed to kill people who’ve had nothing to do with the case?
THERE IS NO LAW, AND NO JUDGE WANTS TO BREAK RANKS WITH HIS FELLOWS.
NO, OF COURSE NOT EVERYONE WHO DISAGREES IS PART OF IT. THAT’S WHAT PEOPLE LIKE YOU DO (IN THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA, NOT JUST YOUR SHITTY LITTLE BLOG). “OH, I DISAGREE WITH THIS GUY. I GUESS THAT MEANS I’M IN ON IT, TOO, RIGHT? HA HA HA!”
NOBODY SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO KILL ANYBODY, JACKASS. AND THE SHERIFFS SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO KILL BROWN FOR RESISTING AN UNJUST TAX, AND AN UNJUST ARRREST. YOU ONLY EVER DEAL WITH ONE SIDE, AND IT’S PATHETIC. IN A REAL LIVE DEBATE ON TV, I WOULD CUT YOU TO PIECES.
3) Ed Brown’s belief in various conspiracy theories, including ones adopted mostly by the anti-American Communists Left like ANSWER, should be examined. Why is it o.k. for supporters to site various conspiracies, but out of bounds for me or anyone else to site belief in them as an indication of the relitive veracity of an arguement?
“Ed Brown’s belief in various conspiracy theories, including ones adopted mostly by the anti-American Communists–”
BULLSHIT.
BUSH AND CREW ARE DESTROYING OUR ECONOMY ON PURPOSE. OUR TWO PARTY SYSTEM, HAPPILY CHAMPIONED BY FOOLS LIKE YOU (DIVIDE THE ELECTORATE BETWEEN “LEFT” AND “RIGHT”), OFFERS NO REAL ALTERNATIVES.
OUR GOVERNEMNT IS SUCKING UP ALMOST ALL OF OUR WEALTH, ON PURPOSE.
YOU ARE THE ANTI-AMERICAN COMMIE.
“Why is it o.k. for supporters to site various conspiracies, but out of bounds for me or anyone else to site belief in them as an indication of the relitive veracity of an arguement?”
DON’T ACT LIKE A DIPLOMAT NOW. YOU ARE THE ONE CALLING NAMES. PEOPLE LIKE YOU DO IT BECAUSE IT WORKS. YOU INTRODUCE HIM AS A KOOK AND A NUT.
4)Why do so many of the comments here contain references to the discredited Satanic Ritual Abuse/Mind Control fad of the ’90’s? Shouldn’t that be evidence of the paranoia, or at least gullibility, of the movement? If not why?
“Why do so many of the comments here contain references to the discredited Satanic Ritual Abuse/Mind Control fad of the ’90’s?”
BULLSHIT.
SMOKE AND MIRRORS FROM YOU, BUDDY. I’M TALKING FEDERAL RESERVE, DEBT, AND CRIPPLING TAXES.
“Shouldn’t that be evidence of the paranoia, or at least gullibility, of the movement? If not why?”
YOU’RE REPEATING YOURSELF FROM POINT 3
” belief in them as an indication of”
THE “MOVEMENT,” AS YOU REFER TO IT, DOES HAVE SOME GOOFS, AS DOES ANY “MOVEMENT,” BUT WE HAVE NO PROPER ORGANIZATION, NOR DO WE HAVE ANY MONEY, LIKE THE TWO MAIN PARTIES, SO, YEAH, WE’RE AN EASY TARGET THERE. BUT MOST OF US ARE INTO THE PRIVATE FEDERAL RESERVE, THE MONEY CREATED FROM THIN AIR, THE UNJUST INTEREST, AND THE CRIPPLING DEBT, WHICH IS ROBBING US ALL OF OUR WEALTH. THAT WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT OF “FREEDOM TO FASCISM.” AND ARRON RUSSO IS NO “CRANK,” AS YOU CALLED HIM THAT NAME. AT LEAST HE’S SOMEBODY. YOU’RE A BLOGGER IN THE WIND.
5) Why is it impossible for anyone to respond to the actually content of the post? Ed Brown wants people to die in his house, I think that’s wrong, I think he’s taking advantage of some people in an effort to escape paying for his crime and that the imagined firefight he’s seeking is an attempt at suicide by cop. Why should I feel different?
“Why is it impossible for anyone to respond to the actually content of the post?”
BECAUSE YOU SHOVEL SO MUCH SHIT, IT’S NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE TO DO SO.
“Ed Brown wants people to die in his house, I think that’s wrong,”
NO, HE WANTS TO LIVE WITH HIS FRIENDS WITHOUT PAYING UNJUST TAX. THE STATE IS PURSUING HIM. IF HE LEAVES, HE GETS ARRESTED AND JAILED. ED BROWN IS RIGHT. WOULD YOU RATHER CROAK IN A JAIL, OR DIE FIGHTING? THOSE ARE THE OPTIONS THE STATE GIVES HIM, IF HE REFUSES TO FUND THE BUSH INSANITY, THE DEBT, AND THE FEDERAL RESERVE. ED BROWN IS NOT A SLAVE.
“Ed Brown wants people to die in his house, I think that’s wrong,”
THAT’S LIKE SAYING, “POLICE OFFICERS WANT TO KILL CHILDREN PLAYING WITH TOY GUNS. I THINK THAT’S WRONG. POLICE OFFICERS ARE BAD.”
POLICE MAKE MISTAKES. ED BROWN WANTS HELP.
YOU ARE SUCH A FUCKING LIAR IT ISN’T EVEN FUNNY.
6) Will you be e-mailing the grieving families of all the people who die if Brown gets his way, calling them “fags” and “psyops dickweeds” when they mourn publically for this tragedy? Is my desire that Americans not kill Americans more offensive then yours to see Americans kill each other? Why?
“Will you be e-mailing the grieving families of all the people who die if Brown gets his way, calling them “fags” and “psyops dickweeds” when they mourn publically for this tragedy?”
RHETORICAL NONSENSE.
WILL YOU BE EMAILING ALL THE FAMILIES OF ANY TAX-BURDENED PEOPLE WHO DIE WITH ED, CALLING THEM “KOOKS” AND “NUTS” AND “ANTI-AMERICAN” AS THEY MOURN?
YOU’RE AN ASSHOLE, MAN. AT THIS POINT, PEOPLE LIKE YOU GET THE CAMERAS TURNED OFF OR GO TO COMMERCIAL. STAY IN YOUR BLOG.
” Is my desire that Americans not kill Americans more offensive then yours to see Americans kill each other? Why?”
MORE RHETORIC.
YOU’RE PATHETIC.
I HAVE A DESIRE THAT AMERICANS NOT KILL OR ENSLAVE OTHER AMERICANS. YOUR DESIRE IS THAT AMERICANS KILL, ENSLAVE, JAIL AND STEAL FROM OTHER AMERIANS. IS IT SO WRONG THAT I GET ANGRY ABOUT YOUR HORRIBLE DESRIES?
SORRY, I JUST HAD TO ACT LIKE YOU FOR A LAUGH.
YOU JUST THINK OUR PRIVATELY-OWNED FEDERAL RESERVE, AND ALL THE MONEY IT LOANS TO OUR BORROW-HAPPY STATE, AT INTEREST, IS JUST FINE.
YOU THINK IT’S COOL FOR ALL THE NORMAL WORKING FOLKS TO ALWAYS BE WORKING TO PAY HUGE TAXES TO ENRICH THESE BANKING FAMILIES THAT HOLD THE FEDERAL RESERVE, AND WHO NEVER DO ANY WORK THEMSELVES.
THAT IS SLAVERY. THAT IS WRONG.
ALL WE CAN DO IS SAY “NO,” BUT WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THEY COME TO GET YOU. IF THEY TACKLE YOU, THEY TAKE YOUR GUNS, THEY CHAIN YOU UP, THEY TASER YOU, AND TAKE YOU TO JAIL, TO ROT.
IF YOU GET HOLED UP IN YOUR HOUSE, LIKE ED, YOU CAN AAAAAAAAAATTTTTTT LEEEEEEEEEEEEEAST SAY THAT YOU WILL TAKE A FEW OF THEM WITH YOU, IF THEY WANT TO TAKE YOU.
THAT MEANS PEOPLE WILL GET KILLED.
ALL YOU SEE ARE THOSE ON YOUR SIDE. I SEE THEM ALL.
I DO NOT HAVE “A DESIRE” TO SEE “AMERICANS KILL EACH OTHER.”
I HAVE A DESIRE TO BE FREE OF AN UNJUST SYTEM, UNJUST TAXES, UNJUST ARREST, UNJUST COURTS AND UNJUST BULLETS FIRED AT ME FOR REFUSING TO BE WRESTLED, TASERED, CUFFED, AND JAILED FOR DEFENDING WHAT GOD GAVE ME.
There. I’m done. Leave the comments here as long as you like; I don’t care. I only spar with monkeys like you to keep my skills sharp. Even if you delete them yourself, at least you have to read them. As for me, I’m gonna leave here and totally forget about you because your blog isn’t important anyway, and neither are you. Three matches:
http://www.google.com/search?h.....&meta=
911 was an inside job-watch for free on google video too
http://www.911weknow.com/911-mysteries-movie.html
on February 20th, 2007 at 5:56 am
Okay, it was posted. One correction. WHen I wrote, “from your first sentence,” I meant the first sentence, below the headline, that mentioned Ed Brown.
Outtie.
Peace out.
http://www.lucasgray.com/video/peacetrain.html
God help you, Rob.
on February 25th, 2007 at 12:45 pm
The 16th Amendment gave no new taxking power. Google Supreme court cases and “income tax” and read: The income tax is an INDIRECT or EXCISE tax on an ACTIVITY OR PRIVILEDGE, and the “income” is merely the “yardstick” or used to deteremine the “tax.” Don’t believe me…check the Supreme Court Cases. And….
“The income tax is, therefore, not a tax on incomes as such. It is an excise taxes with respect to certain activities and priviledge which is measured by reference to the income which they produce…”.House Congressional Record march 27th, 1943, page 2580.
on March 1st, 2007 at 5:01 pm
I’ll start by stating my position on the income tax thing. Income tax is slavery plain and simple. I consider it to be unconstitutional going by the constitution in it’s original form (not including any amendments). If there is a law or no law I think it is unjust to force taxation on American’s. I’m certainly no expert at the constitution I am going by what I know only. Right or wrong it’s what I believe our founders intended. I am a radical Libertarian so you know. At the same time I’m not suicidal enough to face down the feds with a hand full of people over some money. One reason being I believe if you can muster enough support for your cause the government would conform or we would end up in civil war. Either way taking on feds with a hand full of people and is not the smartest thing one could do. Bottom line is brains before guns folks!
on March 2nd, 2007 at 5:11 am
Rob, have you seen Money Masters on Google Video?
on March 7th, 2007 at 3:16 am
Hi Rob,
I dont believe he should be recruiting innocent people to his home either, and requesting they are armed, that is absolutely nuts. I do however understand Ed’s point, where is the law saying you have to pay federal income tax? you have mentioned he broke the law several times, which law? That is the real problem, and whenever the IRS is confronted with this question they can not, and will not answer it, because there is none.
As far as the comment about Ed being a conspiracy theorist, have you read any of the information thats out there? or do you just believe everything your govt tells you ? You should really do some of your “OWN” research before you make comments like this. Whether or not Eds a conspiracy theorists has nothing to do with whats happening in this particular case. Where is the law? show me the law? thats what Ed wants to know. Where is the law saying he has to pay federal income tax? I am challenging you to show us all as well.
on March 7th, 2007 at 4:27 pm
Can any one here show me the law that makes me and you liable to pay fedral income tax? The answer must include the actual statute.
If you are really Intrested in understanding this I suggest you watch this video
http://video.google.com/videop.....+deception
on March 7th, 2007 at 4:59 pm
O.K. Once more into the breach.
Many of you (joe I’m looking at you) are saying that I should “do my own research” and should “show you the law” as if it’s my responsibility to get you to pay taxes. It isn’t, I don’t care if you do or don’t. I pay mine, but then again, I’m a law abiding citizen. But to answer your questions
All conspiracy theorists tend to be completly wrong about everything. This is because of the insulated community of websites and conventions that act as sounding boards for any crazy theory some con artist who wants you to by their self published book can come up with. For example, more then one of you here claimed that Federal income tax was only being used to “pay down the deficit.” It’s an idea that obviously gets around. Well, if that’s true, where does the money for federal entitlements come from? Aid money to other countries? The billions the U.N. sucks up? What about the money to build aircraft carriers? Who pays the President? I ran a Faith in Action program once, which is a federal grant, where’d that money come from?
The point about conspiracy theorists is that they often start out on the wrong foot logic wise. Arguing that the 16th amendment wasn’t ratified (and I can’t find any lawyer or historian that makes that claim) is one thing, then saying that the reason no court finds in favor of that claim is because the Jews/illuminati/Raelians secretly control the government can and SHOULD cast doubt on how logical that claim is.
Researching an argument by “googling” is unacceptable in undergraduate college courses, and hopefully high schools, why is it used for something as important as this? I can find plenty of web pages that claim anything and site it as evidence. For example I could show you a thousand pages authored by Muslims claiming Christianity is paganism. Is that true? Pointing out websites, especially commercial ones, that support your position isn’t sufficient evidence that something is true for my taste. Court records, consultations with lawyers, hell I’d be asking my state representitives to give me sworn statements if I thought this was true. Research involves compiling data, not surfing websites.
Fred, sorry to leave you hanging,I’ll post my thoughts on Money masters soon, but I’m telling you dude, don’t let a buch of people selling books and DVD’s get you in trouble.
on March 11th, 2007 at 4:03 am
“I pay mine, but then again, I’m a law abiding citizen.”
And would probably make a “good German,” when Hitler was on the rise. We already pay more than enough tax in the marketplace to pay for everything. Our debt is a lie.
“Their self published book.”
Your self-published blog. Pot, meet kettle.
It’s not as if the people who control our media are going to champion the idea of less debt and more wealth for the little guy. If we weren’t crippled with taxes, we wouldn’t need to go to the banks for loans. You believe bankers are here to be our friend, and operate no differently than a lemonade stand.
“Well, if that’s true, where does the money for federal entitlements come from…aid money…the U.N…the money to build aircraft carriers…the President…Faith in Action program…where’d that money come from?”
The same pot. We could still do all those things, but be burdened less if we were not borrowing through the Federal Reserve.
“Arguing that the 16th amendment wasn’t ratified–”
Doesn’t mean anything if it was or was not. We are taxed too much. If somebody was raping your daughter, would you stand around waiting for the law to arrive, or would you shoot them dead?
“Jews/illuminati–”
Straw man. Straw man. Straw man.
“Research involves compiling data, not surfing websites.”
So, we’d better not take your website opinion too seriously, then, huh?
“Don’t let a buch of people selling books and DVD’s get you in trouble.”
Yeah, like Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh and Bill O’ Reilly don’t write books and sell DVDs.
The anger in this country is real. The War on Terror is a lie and we are drowning in debt. Just because our suffering and poverty is not shown by the mainstream media, does not mean it isn’t happening.
And yes, a high tax burden is a plank in the Communist Manifesto.
on March 14th, 2007 at 1:51 pm
“If people die in New Hampshire in the coming weeks, the responsibility will lay not at the feet of the civil servants doing their jobs, ”
Rob,
This is ridiculous. You are somehow trying to equate being a civil servant with innocence. They aren’t the same. Just because you are assigned a task by the government doesn’t mean that you represent what is legal. Any man who knowingly does what is illegal is not innocent and it doesn’t matter if they are FBI,CIA or US troops. Those “civil servants” are the greatest enemy that America has. Blind idiots doing what they are told and never questioning the legality of their orders. Our own children rob us of our freedoms.
America is an ideology not a job. Our ideals are based on the law and its enforcment. What we believe about democracy is the only thing that seperates a man from a slave.
If these “civil servants” come to compromise our ideals what should be done?
Should we pay our taxes until things change, even though beyond a shadow of a doubt they are not enforcible by any constitutional reference? Well Rob surprise! This is how things change. One person stands up and the masses rally around him until the change is complete or until or government kills everyone not on their team.
We should rally around Mr Brown because although he stands for himself, he represents every American. We should be willing to sacrifice for our freedoms because once they are gone, we are all slaves. Not slaves like people who get arrested for nothing or can’t speak out, but slaves like the African Americans were 500 years ago.
That is what a people look like who have no liberty. Take a hard look Rob. That is what they look like. This oppression will never stop. It will never right itself and it will never favor the average American. It will only get worse and worse. Have you read the Patriot Act? How about Patriot Act 2?
Unfortunately Ed Brown is a microcosm of a much bigger issue that eventually will lead to Americans rallying, but at what cost. Its quite obvious whose side that you are on.
Are you even American?
on March 14th, 2007 at 2:32 pm
ryan and Big Chuck: I find it interesting that you wait until Rob is away for 2 weeks to post your responses to this post (which is almost 2 months old anyway.) Maybe if I’m bored tonight, I’ll address your “points,” but it’s likely I’ll have more important things to do.
on March 17th, 2007 at 3:19 am
Jenn
Thanks for showing up to say you have nothing to say, and that you have more important things to do, but you post to tell us you have more important things to do, which are so important, they could be abandoned to read an “old” blog and post on it to say that you have nothing to say.
I’m glad you found it to be irresistably interesting.
As you will debate no points, I will sharpen mine:
We are taxed more than enough in the marketplace, and with fees and licenses of every kind to pay for all our roads, cops, hospitals and the other good stuff.
Our government is a wasteful, insane glutton, no matter what pinhead from the Dems or Repubs is in charge. The last election, featuring stooges who were both distant cousins and members of a secret club, offered no real choice.
As for the secret club, Skull and Bones, which I’m sure will get me an ad-hominem attack from Rob, all I can say is that it’s fishy when two of the men who want the highest office clam up when asked about it.
Our money is based on making it out of thin air. Checkbook notes; electronic computer credits. Whatever you may think of my views, you’ve had YOUR WAY since 1913, when the Federal Reserve was set up, and we are drowning in debt, plus, the Great Depression took place while we had the Fed, which was one of the things the Fed’s men promised it would prevent.
Enough is enough.
Enough of people like you, and the fella who runs this blog, and the people who put down Ed Brown. Brown isn’t perfect, but he’s got the right idea. And, no, Rob, please don’t come back with: “Is the right idea trying to get innocent people killed? Is the right idea the anti-semites and–”
The right idea, even if it comes from somebody as imperfect as Brown, is that we’ve been taxed more than enough.
All I hear in response are personal attacks, insults, double standards and straw men. Screw all the rest, and screw Brown, too–the idea here is that we are taxed too much, and we are all justified in resisting it, and that includes Ed Brown, imperfect as he is.
No, I’m not heading for his house, but if my next-door neighbor was doing the same thing, I’d support him. I can’t lose my house, myself, and pull his trip with my own house, because the kids aren’t in college yet, but I would support Ed Brown with my life if he was my next-door neighbor, and THAT, my friends, is what makes a great American–laying your life down for your friend, and protecting what remains of our weakened Constitution.
I’ll let the rest of you get back to watching American Idol and waving your free-trade, Commie Chinese-made flags.
on March 21st, 2007 at 11:31 am
This is more entertaining than American Idol.
When will these “tax protesters” realize that there “ain’t no such thing as a free lunch?”
No one likes taxes, but they are necessary. Forget the “show me the law” and all the numerous arguments that have been shot down by numerous courts. Whoops, I forgot – all the judges and IRS employees are engaged in a vast conspiracy along with the U.S. Government employees that blew up the World Tade Center!
Get over it, and quit supporting the rich kooks that refuse to pay their share….or move to another country where taxes are higher.
on March 22nd, 2007 at 4:24 am
Darren, here, is a fine exponent of the State’s education system.
WE…ALREADY…PAY…TAXES…IN…THE…MARKETPLACE.
WE…ALREADY…PAY…TAXES…AS…FEES…FOR…LICENSES…
AND…PERMITS…OF…ALL…KINDS.
Yes, some tax is necessary, but only for things which are necessary, and the State wastes huge sums of money on things which are not necessary. It overspends, then borrows, plus interest, from the Federal Reserve, which is a private bank, held mostly by foreigners. It creates the money from thin air, then demands interest tribute on the time value of a currency which can be created at will.
Regrettably, your comments are the same as many national columnists. “Pay your share! No free lunch!”
As I read, years ago, the products of the State schools are animals, and respond only to slogans. The reason why commentary of this kind is not allowed in the corporate media, is that it will lead to questioning the commercial banks, which also create money from thin air, and use it to advertise and govern our “free” press.
on March 24th, 2007 at 6:47 am
Well said Ryan,
How do we go from the valid point that income taxes in addition to sales tax, estate taxes et al. is an excessive burden to “let’s shoot it out with some guy” and taxes are part of “the conspiracy?” Weeks ago I offered to take the Ed Brown challange and debate him on the radio, but my e-mails were never answered (as far as I know, I just got back from two weeks of intensive classes) and that’s when I realized that Ed Brown wasn’t just conning these marks into keeping the marshals off his porch, he was kook unwilling to back up his nonsense in a rationonal debate where someone would say “No Ed, the burden is on you to provide proof of your claims, not the other way around.”
Oh yeah, sorry Ryan. I dodn’t go to Public school, I went to private schools all my life, my poor mother struggled to make ends to ensure I got a good education where I learned to think critically, and not follow trends. I can’t speak for Darren, but he’s thinking critically as well. Anti-American, Marxist propaganda (like the whole anti banker thread of your arguement) are the hallmarks of modern public schooling. So Mr. Kettle, I’d continue this but I’m sure you’ve got a meeting Mr. Pot. In your case Pol Pot I’m sure.
on March 25th, 2007 at 12:04 am
Ed Brown doesn’t have the gift of the gab, so why should he debate every minor figure with a fast mouth that does? It doesn’t mean he’s wrong.
Do you think an Olympic champ has the time to wrestle every challenge he gets in a bar, and that if he ignores it, it means he isn’t the champion? Also, why is the violence his problem? The IRS is the one sending stormtroopers into people’s homes. They started it. If any citizen were to resist such a SWAT team attack with guns of their own, the team would mow them down. Brown is letting them know, beforehand, that he means to defend himself, and he’s drawing atention to himself as he does so. Good for him!
Darren isn’t thinking critically, he’s opening and ending with pop culture and slogans not of his own making. I’m not impressed.
“Conning these marks?” “Not follow trends?” You mean because Brown is getting a little internet time, and because Russo got a film released? Brown has nothing for sale. Russo’s film didn’t even get a wide release. When was he on Leno or Letterman? Freedom to Fascism isn’t exactly Super Size Me, I guess.
Your side is the one selling the books and ruling the media. Your side is the one which painted Saddam as the next Hitler, ready to strike Europe within 45 minutes. As your own greedy capitalist hero, Donald Trump, just said, “It was all a lie.” Watch the film Why We FIght, and note the footage of Bush admitting Saddam had nothing to do with it, but he managed to carefully place “Saddam” into all his speeches leading up to the invasion of Iraq, so that a huge portion of our population, to this day, thinks that Saddam ran the planes into the towers. Your side is the trend. Your side looks for marks.
The only game your side has is co-opting patriotism, as Hitler did.
You call us “Anti-American,” over and over and over again, because you know it is effective when heard by some stupid people. You are incapable of finishing a paragraph without including “kook.” All you have is rhetoric and insults.
You refer to the anti-banking material as “Marxist propaganda.” Like Ann Coulter, your people will simply say anything, no matter how crazy it is, because you know you’ll at least get the support of idiots.
Here is a website, filled with quotes from past presidents, all damning the bankers, including Andrew Jackson, who called the bankers a “den of vipers.” And, Jackson was also the only president to pay our debt down to zero:
fdrs.org
Hardly “Marxist,” is he, now?
I don’t know what private school you attended, but if you equate hatred of the bankers’ socialist monopolies, and our tyrannical tax system as “Marxist,” you really need to be asking that school for a refund. Now.
on March 25th, 2007 at 11:45 am
If I’m such a minor figure, why are you breathlessly waiting for my responses to your comments?
If banker’s are socialists why are they promoting capitalism?
If someone claims that there is a vast conspiracy (and their only evidence is the word of other conspiracy theorists) why shouldn’t I call them kooks?
How many books and DVD’s peddled by conspiracy theories do you own? How many were free? You’re a mark.
How can I go from being a communist in one of your comments, to a greedy capitalist in the next? Aren’t they mutually exclusive?
Quotes of former Presidents who din’t like bankers? Jackson owned slaves as well, are we to follow his example in that too? Isn’t it possible, if you think critically as the cliche goes, that a great man may be wrong on certain things?
Attacking the banking system, and capitalism (both of which are largely responsible for you having the free time and internet access with which to make commenting on this two month old post a viable hobby for yourself) is the HALLMARK of marxist ideology. You may change the particulars, but nothing you’ve charged bankers or the IRS with hasn’t been said by ANSWER, Code Pink or George Soros. All of whom are dirty commies
Sorry Ryan but if you walk like a duck…
on March 26th, 2007 at 2:25 am
“If I’m such a minor figure, why are you breathlessly waiting for my responses to your comments?”
I can ask you the same thing.
“If banker’s are socialists why are they promoting capitalism?”
Heh heh heh…you’re too far gone, son.
“If someone claims that there is a vast conspiracy (and their only evidence is the word of other conspiracy theorists) why shouldn’t I call them kooks?”
A few kooks for you, sir. I’d paste more, but I don’t want to dominate your blog:
“Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men’s views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States —in the fields of commerce and manufacturing—are afraid of somebody. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.” – Woodrow Wilson
“A financial element in the large centers has owned the government since the days of Andrew Jackson.” – Franklin Roosevelt
“We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order.” – David Rockefeller
“We can’t be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans.” – Bill Clinton
“Today, America would be outraged if UN troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all people of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the world government.” – Henry Kissinger (Bilderburg Conference 1991 Evians, France)
“Naturally the common people don’t want war…but after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship…all you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.” Herman Goering ( One of Hitler’s top men, during the Nuremberg Trials)
The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists. – Edgar J Hoover
We must strengthen the United Nations as a first step toward a World Government, patterned after our Own Government with a legislature, executive and judiciary and police. – Walter Cronkite
Despite these warnings, Woodrow Wilson signed the 1913 Federal Reserve Act. A few years later he wrote: I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men. – Woodrow Wilson
By the time you become the leader of a country, someone else makes all the decisions. You may find you can get away with Virtual Presidents, Virtual Prime Ministers, and Virtual Everything. – Bill Clinton
The easiest way to gain control of the population is to carry out acts of terror. The public will clamor for such laws if the personal security is threatened. – Joseph Stalin
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“How many books and DVD’s peddled by conspiracy theories do you own? How many were free? You’re a mark.”
http://www.911revisited.com/
FREE
I’m not going to take the time to dig up more, but suffice to say you can watch The Money Masters, 911 Mysteries, Demolitions, and even the imperfect Loose Change (which I don’t recommend), all for free on Google Video. As for the books, they’re free on the net, too. Our stuff is meant to be given away because it can’t get into Starbucks in the first place.
But if you want to pick up the latest books by O’Reily, Coulter, Limbaugh and the rest, you’re gonna pay, and, if you wanna advertise on their shows, you’re gonna pay. Why do you pay? Because they are the mainstream media. It’s not as if defense contractor GE is gonna give our guys face time on NBC, is it, now?
Even if I were a mark for a few self-published books, Bush made us all marks from the bully pulpit of his office. Much bigger deal.
“How can I go from being a communist in one of your comments, to a greedy capitalist in the next? Aren’t they mutually exclusive?”
You pretend to be a capitalist, but ultimately, you’re a commie, so I entertained your facade with the Donald Trump quote. “Free trade” style capitalism is just a bunch of bankers forcing us all DOWN to the level of the Chinese and Mexican sweatshops.
You say you love this country, but you’re just a little wee bit out of touch with the Constitution, sir.
“Quotes of former Presidents who didn’t like bankers? Jackson owned slaves as well, are we to follow his example in that too? Isn’t it possible, if you think critically as the cliche goes, that a great man may be wrong on certain things?”
So, even though he owned slaves, which is bad, I agree, but most all white people did who could afford them at that time, as you saying that Jackson was “WRONG” to have paid our national debt down to zero? Explain.
“Attacking the banking system, and capitalism (both of which are largely responsible for you having the free time and internet access with which to make commenting on this two month old post a viable hobby for yourself)”
Personal attacks…
What’s this bug you’ve got up your ass about ANSWER? I went to the first website I could find
http://www.answerla.org/
and found a mention of a “women’s forum.” I’m not quoting anything from ANSWER, here. Feminism came from the bankers, who, contrary to your opinion, want us to have no free time at all. The women were shamed out of “the kitchen” and into the workplace to help service this artificial debt. Do you think all that “feminism” crap that went on for decades in the mainstream media was genuine?
I don’t even know what the fuck Code Pink is, and if you’re charging quotes, then copy and paste them. Otherwise, leave your straw men at the door.
Our latest war is a lie, and it is crippling this country with debt. Putting the issuing power of CREDIT back in the hands of the people is not a commie idea. By leaving credit in the hands of a bunch of socialist foreign families (the owners of the Federal Reserve, my good man), it leaves us in poverty, and unable to contribute to our political parties. A man in not a well-informed voter if he is either too busy working or sleeping to be able to read up on the issues.
I believe in a free market, and the opportunity of a man to make his bones, and not to be forced to be paired off with a Mexcian, his ruined currency, and his family of 12 kids, and his willingness to work for 25 cents an hour or less.
This “free trade” has taken every pair of Levi’s to China. I guess this is the kind of “Pro-American Captialism” you love…the kind where we end up working at Target and McDee’s, and never pay our homes off, neglecting our kids as all the good jobs go to Communist China. People like you should stand outside your local Wal-Marts with a big sign saying “LET’S KEEP COMMIE CHINA STRONG!”
Oh, but since Wal-Mart is a big business, I’m a pinko in your books if I bitch about it. Just walk through the goddamn store and read the labels, pal.
With poverty comes crime, drugs, broken families and chaos, all to be remedied by the State, and this State, this NWO, is ultimately communist, and it’s wearing the mantle of the United Nations.
I may be a duck, but I’m a duck which can see the forest for the trees.
I remember another guy who hated the moneychangers…what was His name?
on March 26th, 2007 at 10:50 am
Yet again Ryan your switching back and forth from “your a dirty commie” to “your a evil capitalist”, which is it? Free trade is good, if you don’t like Levis because their made in China, don’t buy them. But Levis are affordible for the average Joe because the corp. has the option of having labor markets compete for their business.
Poverty in the U.S. is not caused by “socialist foreign families” but by laziness, an outrageous drug problem and several generations of people raised to belive that they should rely on others for their daily needs. Add to that a corrupt union system that makes it impossible for American companies to compete and you can explain every case of poverty. America is far from impoverished however. You and I certainly aren’t, with our internet connections and free time on our hands.
And while this is all interesting, let’s get back to the point at hand. Will you be at Brown’s house shooting at some guy? Is a U.S. Marshal deserving of death because you and Brown say so? Would Jesus, since you dropped his name grab himself his Mossberg 500 and bust caps in this situation?
on March 31st, 2007 at 4:44 pm
Rob, I do want to thank you for continuing to write.
While both of us undoubtedly preach to our own choirs, I think your contributions serve to move the casual reader to my side.
Again (as I have already provided my answer), you are ultimately a commie, because you are forwarding the socialist super-state cause of the New World Order through its conduits, the United Nations and the Bank for International Settlements.
While a FREE MARKET is good, pitting a great country such as the USA against the ruined “Third World” through the deceptively-named “free trade” laws, which enable a company, such as Levi’s, to produce their goods in a commie nightmare of a country such as China, and then take these goods and dump them into our country does nothing but drag Americans down to the level of the poor bastards in China, with traitors such as Levi’s making a killing in the process. Not a healthy, earned profit, but an immoral killing.
It is not, as you say, “having labor markets compete for their business.” A real competition has two evenly matched opponents, that is why boxers have weight classes. And while I don’t expect business to follow the rules of the Olympics, pitting the average Mexican against the average American is not a competition, it is a massacre.
Choosing to build TV sets in Mexico isn’t about competing “labor markets,” it’s about making the immoral decision to simultaneously damage America while exploiting the poor of a ruined, fucked-up country, all to make an obscene profit, and not to “compete.” What’s that, you say? Then what do we do if the Chinese make their own Levi’s imitations? We put our trade barriers back up, and keep their crap out. Let the Chinese keep their goods.
Continuing this policy will eventually cut the average American off at the knees, eliminating the middle class, and leaving us a nation of a few professionals and CEOs at the top, and everybody else in poverty, working more and more and more and getting less and less and less.
When people such as me point this out, you call us union-loving leftists. None of it is true. I believe in a free market, but what can I do when my neighbor is making a deal with a commie country or a banana republic to make the same pants I’m sewing together in my backyard?
I’ve got nothing against a man getting rich, but when these rich men exploit others by forcing them down to the level of the poorest in ruined countries, I call it for what it is: evil.
Slowly but surely, my good man, Americans (some of them, anyway) are waking up to what is happening. Even if they are imperfect as Ed Brown is, it is still the right thing to do, to challenge a corrupt State, as the only stooges we get to hear about at election time are the ones with the money to spend. You may look at our government as being the will of the people, but I see it as the same bunch of lobbyists changing places on the faux see-saw of the “left” and “right.” Anyone who challenges the banks will find himself an orphan when it comes to corporate donations.
“Poverty in the U.S. is not caused by “socialist foreign families” but by laziness?” Once more, you play into the hands of the puppet-masters, and blame the poor for being poor.
We cannot all be doctors and lawyers and CEOs. Even if we tried, only the best doctors and lawyers would be employed, and the rest would have to do other jobs–the “normal” jobs.
As George Bailey asked, in It’s a Wonderful Life, “Is it so much to ask that they live and die in their own small houses?” I may have garbled the quote a little, but you must remember that movie.
No, we can’t all be doctors, lawyers, and CEOs. If we can’t, is it so much to ask that we be paid for our labor? So that we may live, and not spend all of our lives working to service debt?
How can you blame poverty on laziness, when most people are working? Do you think our national debt of almost nine trillion dollars is there to service welfare bums? That it’s the “welfare debt?” Come on!
Foreigners control the Federal Reserve, which is not federal, and has no reserves, and it has never been audited, and the American people cannot buy shares in it. The Fed controls the country, far more than any political party can ever hope to. Ergo, foreigners run America. They make the paper-based loans, based on our forced promises to pay, made in our name, by the our government, plus interest.
The average Joe, working at minimum wage or even something much higher than it, is so crippled by marketplace taxes, fees for licenses of all kinds and income tax, that he cannot hope to buy his own house, or send his kids to college. He has NO CHOICE but to crawl to the commercial banks, and go for a loan, leaving him unable to help his friends or his family.
His labor, and the labor of his wife, is being stolen in interest tribute, paid to banks in the commercial sector, and, to the banks which own our country.
The true criminals are the owners of the Fed, and the commercial bankers. Since they have debauched our currency and spoiled its purchasing power, many do turn to drugs for a business, or for relief. As raging conservative Ted Nugent used to say, a good meal or a good fuck beats any drug there is.
People turn to drugs as a last resort.
Why not risk jail to sell crack when working a 40-hour week at McDonald’s leaves you tired, but with little in your pocket, and only a rented room to live in?
Why not smoke crack when all you ever get to do is work and sleep?
If a man does honest labor in the field, he should be paid honestly in return. But we aren’t paid, as we all all forced to use Federal Reserve Notes as currency, and those notes are worth very little, since they have been inflated on purpose since the Fed was created, and anything left over is gobbled up in taxes, to service a debt based on paper, plus interest.
“America is far from impoverished however.”
It is. Most people are deep in debt. You would blame them for being irresponsible. They aren’t. Yes, most people might abuse a credit card, but everybody hates to rent, and a mortgage isn’t a silly purchase.
“You and I certainly aren’t, with our internet connections and free time on our hands.”
I don’t know what you do for a living, or how much you make. I work in a retail electronics store. I wish I could have half the hours but still have the same pay. Do I expect my employer to raise my pay? No. Do I want a union to force my employer to do so, and maybe ruin his business? No.
I want my income taxes removed. If they were, I’d require less working hours for my necessities. Now, since you seem to have a very short memory, this is where you’d say “How do we pay for all our government services, you kook?”
As I said before, we pay more than enough in the marketplace to more than pay for everything. Our problem is that we have been saddled with a compounded interest debt slavery based on a trick, as our debt is many times greater than all the notes and coins that exist, and cannot be repaid.
Every child born after the Fed was created is viewed as food for the debt machine by the international bankers.
“And while this is all interesting, let’s get back to the point at hand.”
No, this is what it is all about. This is the reason why Ed Brown is waiting, with guns, for the Fed’s collection agency, the IRS, to move on his house, which he owns, as he doesn’t owe the bankers anything in income tax.
Still, to entertain you, I’ll deal with your rhetorical and irrelevant strawman arguments:
1. “Will you be at Brown’s house shooting at some guy?”
If you have kids, and somebody framed you for child abuse, and the police were coming to take your kids away and put them in the care of a state employee you knew was a kiddie diddler, would you punch a cop in the face? Probably. So, based on that, maybe I should ask you, “Will you be punching our noble and brave police officers in the face, Rob?”
But, to deal with your point, which I’ve already dealt with before (your short memory, again)–although I can’t give up my mortgaged house and my kids to join Ed Brown, if he was my next door neighbor, and if my kids were in college, I would stand with him. And, while I would not fire the first shot, if I saw those IRS stormtrooper SWAT teams, heavily armed and screaming at an innocent man to surrender his house, and then saw them fighting at the door, and saw both sides punching each other and throwing tear gas at each other, and then noticing that the IRS was losing, and one of the IRS criminals drew a gun and fired at Ed Brown’s men, I would open f–
Oh, wait…I’m not about to incriminate myself. Suffice to say we all have a right to defend our property from theft.
Maybe I should answer with another question. Will the IRS be killing people for refusing to pay taxes based on fraud? Hmmm…IF they do, MAYBE others should fire back? I just don’t know. Sorry, Rob.
2. “Is a U.S. Marshal deserving of death because you and Brown say so?”
No, you see, it’s the State, indebted to international banksters, coming to take Brown’s house, to pay taxes he doesn’t owe, and willing to use deadly force to do it if Brown disagrees and doesn’t want to be subjected to regular anal probes looking for weapons and drugs as he is sent to jail to rot with murderers and child molesters. Brown isn’t marching to the Marshall’s house. Brown isn’t even marching to the White House, demanding a refund. He just wants to be left alone. The Marshalls should just leave and sign papers attesting to never coming back.
Is Ed Brown deserving of death because a banker in Germany who owns part of the Fed says Brown owes him money based on sweat that the banker created with a pen stroke?
3. “Would Jesus, since you dropped his name grab himself his Mossberg 500 and bust caps in this situation?”
I can’t speak to that, as I don’t invoke Him into rhetorical internet chitchats. I only reminded you of what He did to the moneychangers, as moneychangers create profit from no work at all, which is evil, for they love money, and the love of money is the root of all evil.
Go kiss your rich and lazy bankers, Rob.
“If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
on April 1st, 2007 at 3:54 pm
This is what you did on a Saturday?
on April 12th, 2007 at 5:48 am
From fdrs.org
As you have no appreciation for original writing, I thought I’d copy and paste. Why the hell not? Be sure and write back; it seems neither of us can resist the temptation of the last word. If you were to do so by banning me, I’d consider it a compliment.
WHO PLANS THE OBJECTIVES OF THE UNITED NATIONS?
The first thing to understand is who’s behind the UN. You need to know who’s pulling the strings.
The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) created the United Nations. The CFR is filled with people who endorse the characteristics of COMMUNISM.
The people who were involved in forming the CFR are none other than the international bankers and their ridiculous secret society ideas.
“Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men’s views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.” – Woodrow Wilson, former U.S. President (1913)
“…the real menace of our republic is this invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy length over city, state and nation. Like the octopus of real life, it operates under cover of self-created screen. At the head of this octopus are the Rockefeller Standard Oil interests and a small group of powerful banking houses generally referred to as international bankers. The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both political parties.” – John F. Hylan, New York City Mayor, 1922
“For a long time I felt that FDR had developed many thoughts and ideas that were his own to benefit this country, the USA. But he didn’t. Most of his thoughts, his political ‘ammunition,’ as it were, was carefully manufactured for him in advance by the Council on Foreign Relations-One World Money Group.” – Curtis Dall, ex-President Franklin Roosevelt’s son-in-law
“The One World Government leaders and their ever close bankers have now acquired full control of the money and credit machinery of the U.S. via the creation of the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank.” – Curtis Dall, ex-President Franklin Roosevelt’s son-in-law
“The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson… The country is going through a repetition of Jackson’s fight with the Bank of the United States—only on a far bigger and broader basis” – ex-President Franklin Delano Roosevelt
The politicians are merely puppets. The puppets just carry out the objectives of the United Nations. The United Nations carries out the objectives of the banksters. You must understand this concept in order to understand what’s going on.
The biggest of all the objectives of the United Nations is a New World Order where all people submit their lives and sovereignty to these power-mad maniacs.
All the other objectives of the United Nations are merely steps to accomplish the main goal of the One World Government.
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I could copy and paste some more, but it seems unpolite to do so. This is, after all, your blog. Going overboard with this pasting seems rude.
on April 12th, 2007 at 9:10 pm
More reasoned debate by Ed Brown supporters. So explain to me how the UN and the “banksters” play into Brown’s situation. Or are you just using the comments section of Red-Alerts as a surrogate blog for yourself?
Thank you though, now this months old post ranks higher on Google for unrelated terms, largely due to your obssession with vomiting forth nonsense you’ve read on the internet.
Since you seem to believe anything you’ve read on the web, let me ask you this, I’ve seen on the net that if you walk into a room where two Lesbains are having sex, they’ll begin fellating you no matter what you look like. Is this true?
on April 26th, 2007 at 5:05 pm
Rob
You should read more about this before making assumptions. Ed Brown was in court to defend himself. He has evidence and documents that can show that he does not need to pay income tax. He has Supreme Court rulings that are in his favor.
The judge would not allow Ed to show any of this evidence in “his court”.
Ed was not allowed to present a defense so he left before the procedings were over.
Ed filed an appeal that the judge said was premature. Ed has filed other documents that the judge has ignored. Why does the judge not allow the Browns to present a defense?
I don’t know about you, but I feel that if the court does not have to follow the rules of law why should Ed Brown.
on April 26th, 2007 at 7:54 pm
If a cop beats a Black man, Black people should be allowed to attack cops and White people. That’s where your logic leads.
Brown didn’t show up to court, don’t take my word for it, read the articles of the reporters who cover the story.
If you want to see conspiracies in this fine, as I’ve said a dozen times before, but i don’t. Now go to my front page and let it go.
on April 29th, 2007 at 5:22 am
Ah, Rob, you deleted my other post in its entirety. What a right coward you are. Briefly, then:
“More reasoned debate by Ed Brown supporters. So explain to me how the UN and the “banksters” play into Brown’s situation.”
I already did.
“Or are you just using the comments section of Red-Alerts as a surrogate blog for yourself?”
As long as you keep asking questions I’ve already answered, it’s hard not to.
“Thank you though, now this months old post ranks higher on Google for unrelated terms, largely due to your obssession with vomiting forth nonsense you’ve read on the internet.”
You’re on the internet, too. Obsession? I don’t have a blog.
“Since you seem to believe anything you’ve read on the web,”
See above.
“let me ask you this, I’ve seen on the net that if you walk into a room where two Lesbains are having sex, they’ll begin fellating you no matter what you look like. Is this true?
Worst straw man……ever!
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And, since this is an update, here’s a bonus. Be sure to delete this, too, Rob:
“If a cop beats a Black man, Black people should be allowed to attack cops and White people. That’s where your logic leads.”
Um…no. That’s not what the guy said. You sound tired. You can make a better straw man than that, can’t you?
“Brown didn’t show up to court, don’t take my word for it, read the articles of the reporters who cover the story.”
Straw man: Invoke an unrelated argument. Knock it down. Claim victory.
He didn’t show up in court! He didn’t! What? You don’t believe me? Maybe you need to read the truth of what happened–he did not show up! I’m telling you, he didn’t show up. You’re saying he did, but he didn’t. I’m right and you’re wrong!
“If you want to see conspiracies in this fine, as I’ve said a dozen times before, but i don’t. Now go to my front page and let it go.”
“If you want to–”
No, Rob. At the risk of repeating myself to you, yet again, our taxes are too high. Your “side” has had it their way for almost 100 years, and we are in the exact mess that the Federal Reserve said it would prevent from happening. The Fed is not “Federal,” nor is it in posession of any “reserves.” We are being forced, at the point of the IRS’s guns, to pay interest tribute to a small group of foreign bankers who own the Fed’s lion share of shares. And, no, we the people cannot buy shares in the Fed, nor can we elect its directors, or audit it. That is what Ed Brown is resisting.
“…but i don’t.”
Okay, so let’s express our opinions about–
“Now go to my front page and let it go.”
Oh. Shut up, right? All you’ve got are dumb jokes, and nothing else but that.
“This is what you did on a Saturday?”
You mean kicking your ass? Yeah, I can do that every other day, too.
on April 29th, 2007 at 1:33 pm
I deleted your post because:
A) It contained a link to a spam site
B) There’s only so long I’ll be insulted by some troll
C)Your last post is no different then this one or any of your others.
Don’t pay your taxes, no one cares. The post isn’t about that, it’s about Ed Brow wanting to shoot people.
on May 5th, 2007 at 4:00 am
A) Spam is unsolicited EMAIL.
B) You insulted at the very start, you insult now, and you can’t take an insult in return
C) Repeating oneself is reserved for you, alone, here
Ed Brown is surrounded. Ed Brown has not surrounded the Sheriff. Ed Brown is defending, not advancing. Ed Brown wants to be left alone. The IRS would have already taken him, but for the attention and the guns he had to defend himself with. When they do move to take him, he will be defending, not advancing.
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Rob, you’re a welfare-state apologist, a commie and an atheist with no repsect for the Constitution. Get on a slow boat to China. Here’s something from another spam site for you to delete:
on May 5th, 2007 at 4:01 am
Well, Rob…at least you’re still allowing posts.
There may be hope for you, yet.
on May 5th, 2007 at 4:45 am
Speaking of Communist…
Do not reproduce other peoples writings in their entirety on this (or any other) site. Repost excerpts from it, but fair use does not include stealing an essay and reprinting it somewhere else.
Ryan: Go through that essay and take out 4-6 paragraphs that are important. Add your own thoughts to it, and then you’re not violating his copyright. You can tell when something is copyrighted because it has a copyright symbol next to its title.
on May 11th, 2007 at 3:11 pm
Ah, Rob…
As long as nothing is being offered for sale, we can repost whatever we want. (Not what copyright means, but O.K.)
But, as long as it’s only you and me here, I’ll save myself the trouble of monkeying around in a thread with such a small audience, and leave you with this…a link to a man who just became an American citizen, by way of Italy:
Here’s the lyrics (ALL OF THEM): (Why?)
A new world order a new disorder
they want to take control of your soul
A new world order no more borders
global control
You’re free to do what they say
if you try to get away you die or obey
no place to escape nowhere to run they own our sons
they control our thoughts they control our tongue
they print our cash they made the crash
they tax our work they suck our blood
A new world order a new disorder
they want to take control of your soul
A new world order no more borders
global control is their goal
We better wake up before it’s too late
or we will be their slaves
with a chip in our brains if you’ll speak up
they call you insane
but together we are gonna win
we will expose their sin
we will give them pain
now it’s time to fight
A new world order a new disorder
they want to take control of your soul
A new world order no more borders
global control global control global control
is their goal
CFR, National Id card, the patriot act, SPP, North American Union, obligatory vaccinations, martial law,
United Nations, Skull and Bones, guns confiscation,
911 was an inside job, federal reserve is a fraud,
we know your dirty plans scumbags,
we will fight you till the end, for freedom, for our Country,
for our sons… we will live free or die.
we are going to kick your global ass
fight the new world order
fight the new world order
be part of the second American Revolution
Victory or Death
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Is there any chance you could leave, and take his place in Italy, Rob? This spaghetti-twister (Nice) seems to have more fire for the Constitution than…well, you don’t have any fire for it.
Ummm…yeah…could you, y’know, like, leave…please?
Thanks so much.
on June 7th, 2007 at 2:52 pm
“If people die in New Hampshire in the coming weeks, the responsibility will lay not at the feet of the civil servants doing their jobs”
They used this excuse at the Nazi trials also.
on June 7th, 2007 at 6:08 pm
simple: you’re a moron R. Taylor
on June 7th, 2007 at 8:16 pm
The Nazis used the excuse that Ed Brown will be the cause of the violence in Nazi Germany? I didn’t know that, very enlightening “Blome.”
If I’m such a moron boys, why am I living the good life instead of having my assets seized? I think the Browns are the morons in this one.
on June 15th, 2007 at 2:31 pm
You’re article is one of the worst pieces of journalism I have ever seen. Part of journalism is being factually correct. You’re article is full of glaring holes. Ed and Elaine Brown did not refuse to pay taxes. They refused to pay income taxes. Big Difference. Also, Ed Brown is not barricaded inside his home. He continues to let any supporters enter and leave his house freely. He also never asked anyone to come armed to support him. His message is if the federal government raid his home, people should begin to fight back. He has made clear that he has no intentions of firing on troops surrounding his house unless fired upon first. And the biggest hole in your story is Ed Brown has not refused to leave his home until the federal government says he doesn’t have to pay his taxes. He has said on several occasions that if they can show him the law that requires him to pay an income tax (which the IRS refused to do during his trial) he will leave voluntarily. Without debating the legality and morality of the income tax and surrounding the Brown house with troops, just get your facts straight.
I just buried this ked.
on June 15th, 2007 at 6:51 pm
Everthing you said is a lie. A lie refuted by Ed Brown himself in numerous interveiws on his official website and the various “patriot sites” that support him. Income taxes are indeed taxes. He has made dozens of calls for people to come to his house, armed, to fight the government. He won’t leave his house to even walk his dog.
Stop bullshitting “Andrew” (Ryan?) and at least admit to what your hero is doing. It’s unseemly in the extreme to support someone but not be willing to speak truthfully about what they’re doing.
I don’t know what a “ked” is, but that’s likely because I’m an adult who doesn’t try to imitate teenage slang. Only pedophiles and Ed Brown supporters seem to do that. Food for thought.
on June 27th, 2007 at 5:20 pm
What kind of a pussy criticizes posts within the posts?
A pussy like you, Rob.
I guess you can say we’re lying and we can say you’re lying. Ron Paul compares Ed Brown to Gandhi:
http://questforfairtrialinconcordnh.blogspot.com/
Now, go and remove the link, pussy.
The link is fresh as of June 27, 2007, and it’s on a blog, so it won’t be good for long.
on June 27th, 2007 at 5:26 pm
At this blog, a video has Ron Paul comparinmg Ed Brown to Gandhi:
http://questforfairtrialinconcordnh.blogspot.com/
Now go and remove the link, cheater.
BTW, since this is a blog, the link will only be good for a short time.
P.S. Ron Paul has done a lot for our country, Rob; you’re just a guy with a website who lies, just like your NWO cheerleaders Bush, Powell, Rice, Cheney and all the rest lie.
on June 27th, 2007 at 5:28 pm
Double post. Sorry.
I hate you, Rob.
on June 27th, 2007 at 10:34 pm
You hate me? What are you a 15 year old girl?
The irony of a guy who posts anonymous commenter calling someone a pussy is astounding by the way.
And the link would “stay fresh” if you used the permilink, moron.
While you’re over there, why don’t you ask your friends why Ed still hasn’t responded to my debate offer? Was it because I insisted on him giving me a call in number BEFORE I gave his minions my home address(!?!) and phone number? Was it because your Ghandi like Brown was really just collecting names of people to have his crazy followers murder?
Ed is like Ghandi in one respect however, in that they’re both pro Holocaust. Oh, and both are shiftless grifters.
My offer for a debate still stands, however. And I don’t worry, your posts don’t make you sound effiminate and unstable at all…
on August 22nd, 2007 at 9:30 pm
Rob –
Thank you for your voice of reason. I live in the same town as Ed Brown, and we have known for years that Ed is a delusional whack job. We are tired of this whole thing, and you are correct when you say that all Ed wants is to go down in a fiery blaze as a martyr to all of the other dummies out there.
Anyway, I wanted to alert all of the people that may be sitting on the fence on this one to a webpage that does an excellent job of explaining all of the tax arguments that have been made since 1913, and why they have been all roundly discredited. The page is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T....._arguments
If readers to this blog have any doubts please read it. Ed’s supporters are idiots and there is no changing their minds, but for those of you who are reasonable intelligent, please read it.
on August 23rd, 2007 at 1:52 am
Thanks. I hope this whole thing will be over soon with no bloodshed. Sorry for your troubles there.
on September 6th, 2007 at 4:13 pm
It is inevitable, the new American revolution is here….Ed Brown is a true patriot and a real american hero. Down with the Federal Central Bank and the federal income tax. There is no law to tax wages or to file a 1040, if we werent taxable before 1913, than we’re not taxable after…period…end of argument.
on September 6th, 2007 at 4:23 pm
So if it wasn’t illegal to do something prior to 1913 it’s not illegal now? I can’t wait to put cocaine in soda and sell it to children. then I’ll buy some slave, ride my horse through the center of town and kill some claim jumpers.
Do you have any idea how retarded you sound?
on September 11th, 2007 at 11:26 am
I find it weird that many people speaking out against the war in Iraq are supporting this nut who would like to rub out local law officers.
on September 11th, 2007 at 1:54 pm
It’s almost like they think America’s the enemy
on September 16th, 2007 at 3:47 am
If those posting here that support Ed Brown think he is so great then go to his own blog and listen to him say that when the feds closed in on his wife he called them and told them that he would pay the amount and they told him it was too late he had been convicted.
Sounds like wussy Ed got scared and tried to wiggle out which is what all of these tax protesters do. By the way look at Ed’s own web site and his background and he freely admits that he was convicted of assault with a deadly weapon while in the Navy and six months in the stockade and a dishonorable discharge.
Still want follow this fool?
If so then go die in New Hampshire but don’t ask the rest of us to follow you, we won’t do it.
If you really want to know who Ed is then listen to his won archives and you will find an illogical and disillusioned mind who should be in prison or in a nut house where he can’t do anybody or himself any harm.
So quit listening to the rhetoric and listen to Ed’s own archives to find out just how messed up he really is.
on September 16th, 2007 at 3:48 am
If those posting here that support Ed Brown think he is so great then go to his own blog and listen to him say that when the feds closed in on his wife he called them and told them that he would pay the amount and they told him it was too late he had been convicted.
Sounds like wussy Ed got scared and tried to wiggle out which is what all of these tax protesters do. By the way look at Ed’s own web site and his background and he freely admits that he was convicted of assault with a deadly weapon while in the Navy and six months in the stockade and a dishonorable discharge.
Still want follow this fool?
If so then go die in New Hampshire but don’t ask the rest of us to follow you, we won’t do it.
If you really want to know who Ed is then listen to his own archives and you will find an illogical and disillusioned mind who should be in prison or in a nut house where he can’t do anybody or himself any harm.
So quit listening to the rhetoric and listen to Ed’s own archives to find out just how messed up he really is.
on October 5th, 2007 at 10:22 pm
Ding Dong the witch is dead…so to speak. They are going off to jail where they will rot for quite some time!
on February 2nd, 2008 at 10:25 am
Thanks for sharing
on February 9th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
Dear Rob Taylor,
While on the surface you seem to be English or something with a name like Taylor, I met that Taylor who is a big-wig New York City “economist”, and he is clearly a Jew. So let’s see, you write an article on this lonely website and then go right in swinging at every commenter, like dozens of times. Real reporters get sick of that, and drop it. But you doggedly defend your ego-crap to the end. Hmmm, very Jewish.
You can’t possibly be making any money by arguing with every other reader, that drives people away. And so you are most likely getting paid to run another Red Lodge propaganda front. I don’t think the big-titted -blonde ads refute the Jew-mind-control-propaganda angle obviously implied by your whole webpage, either.
If you weren’t a front for the British Jew / Red Lodge interests owning Federal Reserve private bank, you wouldn’t make the assumption that Ed is guilty, because you would naturally regard him as innocent until proven guilty which also means untaxable until proven taxable.
Good luck, Mr. Taylor, I hope you think twice about villifying your countrymen and come to see that people like Ed aren’t monsters after all, but just people like you who are after Truth.
on February 12th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
Are you high?
A) I happen to be Bi-racial and not Jewish (though I do like Jews if as a matter of fact) or Christian or Muslims. I’m a polytheist and in fact am the most well known Republican pagan on the internet. Don’t believe me? Look it up.
B) Are you claiming it’s “Jewish” to defend ones point or reputation? Would it be Jewy of you if I said only morons make claims that are so stupid?
C) My ads do very well, and I run several websites. If you know of any Jewish conspiracy that would pay me flat out instead of me having to work with dozens of marketing companies please let me know, but I work for myself. I’m not sure what Jew mind control propaganda I’m putting out there, but Kendra Wilkinson ads wouldn’t refute anything, simply put money in my pocket.
D) “If you weren’t a front for the British Jew / Red Lodge interests owning Federal Reserve private bank, you wouldn’t make the assumption that Ed is guilty, because you would naturally regard him as innocent until proven guilty which also means untaxable until proven taxable.” Huh?
That’s like saying “If you weren’t on the David Duke/Radical Islam payroll you wouldn’t hold these opinions. You hate Jews (and daddy no doubt) that’s your thing and you came up with it on your own. Why are you unable to accept people who disagree with you aren’t part of a conspiracy? Is it because you’re a pot smoking loser? Or are you simply crazy?
By the way, thanks for commenting on a 2-year-old post.